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by 'do such a thing' do you mean play him in midfield? By do such a thing I mean buy a class defender (which we need to begin with) to play in midfield yes.

I don't think its true, to be clear its the idea that we'd do such a thing that's ludicrous.

By the way, I thought Gutierrez couldn't play in our first two friendlies, firstly because we didn't have his registration sorted and secondly because Mallorca wouldn't give him the go ahead to play without the registration they still held at the time. So if people are still claiming his registration isn't sorted then what's changed now to allow him to play in our friendlies?

Seems ludicrous to me to buy a player many consider to be a world class central defender and shoe horn him into defensive midfield... Buy a fucking defensive midfielder if you want a defensive midfielder!

Does that post have a point Mrmojo? Because it seems to have absolutely nothing at all to do with my post

May not be able to play according to who? Your imagination? So what if it took a couple of weeks more then expected to complete the signing of Gutierrez, I suppose that's not a price worth paying to sign a 26 year old current Argie international for £2 million? Yeah we should have just paid the £10 million his club valued him at so we could have played him against the likes of Doncaster and Hartlepool.. well worth the extra £8 million eh?

Pathetic.

I don't mean he will replace him directly, be the same kind of player ect. I'm just trying to look at the players that have left the team and the players that will come into the team in order to try to see this obvious improvement people are talking about. Fair enough I suppose Barry hasn't gone yet though..

Maybe?..

Bouma is a better player than Shorey, but his right foot currently points in the wrong direction, hence the need for another LB. When Bouma comes back, we'll have two LBs instead of one at the club. The other obvious improvement is that we now have a right back. Mellberg did ok there defensively, but was awful coming forward. We've now got Luke Young to play there. If you can find me a single Villa fan who thinks Mellberg is a better option at right back than Luke Young, I'll eat my metaphorical hat. To be honest I don't rate Luke Young as a good right back, the lads very average IMO. Fair enough if he's better there then an ageing Mellberg though, Villa fans should certainly know more about that then I do.

Don't see it personally. Sidwell is a step down from Barry and Cuellar will be at best an able replacement for Mellberg, at worst Boumsong 2.. where have they improved? Friedel looks to be the only improvement. Sidwell isn't a Barry replacement, though. Mellberg has been on a downward slope for 3 years now. He's a hero to us, but any Villa fan will tell you his best years are gone. He also played the entirety of last season at RB, so I don't see how Cuellar replaces him. Calling Cuellar Boumsong 2 is a bit harsh. He's come from the SPL and he's a foreign defender, does that mean he's shit as well? So who is Barry's replacement?, or are you saying he'll stay? Also who will Cuellar replace? As for calling Cuellar Boumsong 2, well I didn't say that at all. I said at best he could be an able replacement for Mellberg (think Mellberg before he was moved to right back) and at worst he could be Boumsong 2, as in he could flop completely.

You're all fucking mental!!

Interesting?, I don't find anything Chelsea do interesting on or off the pitch.

Would say Bouma is better then Shorey and Mellberg is better then Luke Young even at right back. Can't argue Friedel is better then Carson and Cuellar should certainly be better then Zat Knight but Knight wasn't even first choice so its quite odd to even compare them.

Don't see it personally. Sidwell is a step down from Barry and Cuellar will be at best an able replacement for Mellberg, at worst Boumsong 2.. where have they improved? Friedel looks to be the only improvement.

The deal was agreed in writing this time so they can't legally ask for more money.

Wonder what Small Willie's excuse will be?

We don't need the money so I see no reason to sell unless we're already planning on bringing in a better player..

Just for the "can't be him he's a different shade" merchants: http://www.nufcpics.com/image/Obafemi-Martins_327156.jpg http://www.football.co.uk/shared/images/news/400x400_ObafemiMartinsNew.jpg Oh no, one of those must be an imposter!!1!11!

Which category does Coloccini fit into then?

Coloccini's a better player then Cuellar son. Plus we've signed three more, and Villa have signed?.. Sidwell? mackems.gif

I suppose, but I still don't understand it, as a fan it would make me feel like s*** to mislead fellow fans, getting their hopes up for f*** all.

Why bother making shit up?, don't understand why a fan would do this kind of thing to other fans

Thought they were after love as well as Smith Doubt it, they'll have 5 strikers this way, and i'm not really expecting Moyes to see Smith as a midfielder, the deal seemed to reach a dead end last sunday and their no longer intrested..just a matter of time till the press announce that he's staying.. Which five strikers are you referring to there? As far as I know they currently have only two senior strikers, Yakubu and Anichebe. Vaughan's starting to come through but I doubt he can be relied upon as a first team player yet. The likes of Jose Baxter certainly can't. Yakabu, Anichebe, Vaughan, Love, Smith Vaughan already made more than 20 apperances for the first team and is pretty much a part of it, he's much better than Smith aswell.. Ah I thought you meant they'd have 5 strikers if they only signed Wagner Love and not Smith, now I get what you mean. Still think they might want him, hope so anyway. Vaughan has made 20 appearances, however he only made 13 last year and all but one of those were only sub appearances, they might want four senior strikers.

Thought they were after love as well as Smith Doubt it, they'll have 5 strikers this way, and i'm not really expecting Moyes to see Smith as a midfielder, the deal seemed to reach a dead end last sunday and their no longer intrested..just a matter of time till the press announce that he's staying.. Which five strikers are you referring to there? As far as I know they currently have only two senior strikers, Yakubu and Anichebe. Vaughan's starting to come through but I doubt he can be relied upon as a first team player yet. The likes of Jose Baxter certainly can't.