Teasy

You reckon nobody ever lies about being burgled then?

Right and if its proven beyond all reasonably doubt that someone lied in order to try to get someone put in prison of course they should be punished, rape cases in that respect should be no different to any other. That's not the same as being punished simply for not proving their case though. I mean are you saying people should get a completely free pass to accuse someone of a crime with no chance of any repercussions no matter how frivolous the claim? That would obviously be wrong and go against the entire legal system.

Of course, nobody should be punished just because their case wasn't proven, that's not how the law works and it never will be no matter who calls for it.

Ah better keep him as guilty even if he's innocent then..

Aye, just remember both playing a lot more before that happened. Lascelles was obviously very young and inexperienced, but I think the feeling at the time (from reading the Forrest forums) was that he'd be playing for them had his transfer here not been decided already.

As far as I remember both him and Darlow were regulars until their transfer here was agreed behind the managers back.

Played really well, he's got so much confidence in himself and his ability to beat a man, plus he can put a good ball into the box. Far better than I thought he was before we bought him.

At least it looks like we'll be in with a shout on the last day, which looked impossible before Rafa arrived. Hope to god Tottenham have nowt to play for by then!

He doesn't do anything, just sort of almost does.

Unreal isn't it?, he's fucking awful.

Hope Man City get 11 injuries and can barely put a fucking team out in the Champions League!

I doubt we'll stay up with 7 as that means 35 points and would mean Norwich only need a win and a couple of draws or two wins for the mackems. I actually think the mackems could easily take seven or eight points from their games and will finish ahead of Norwich (I really wanted a draw between them at the weekend) so I think we need ten points to put them both under pressure and give ourselves a fighting chance. Three wins and a draw from somewhere. Anything less and I wouldn't like to put too much money on us staying up. I doubt it as well, that's to give us the slimmest of chances IMO. To have a really good chance I think we need 10. If Sunderland get 7 or 8 points from their remaining fixtures they'll have done incredibly well, certainly don't see it being easy though, far from it. They certainly don't have two games left as winnable as Palace at home and Villa away.

Personally think we need 7 more points to have any chance at all of staying up, given the fixtures Sunderland and Norwich have left. Would be amazing if we could get 3 of those points tonight.

So? So it's hardly worth getting excited about such a pedestrian performance. We were not good by any means. What were you expecting? Us to turn into Barcelona and systematically destroy Swansea from start to finish? We won 3-0, we didn't have it handed to us, we worked hard and took our chances. Why should it have been different? Are we the only team that has to be perfect to deserve to win?

Have I lost the plot or did I just hear the Soccer Saturday lot say Sunderlands fixtures look easier than ours? I'm not saying we don't have hard fixtures and of course we're quite shit but just looking at it fixture for fixture our run is definitdly the easier looking.

Kaboul dragging Mbokani down was a pen as well IMO.

There have been some nervy moments at the back for Sunderland. Two biggest differences are they don't completely shit themselves and they can defend set pieces. Norwich should have had a pen as well IMO, and Sunderland's second goal was a foul.

I think they've looked light years ahead of us in overall application, from start to finish they've worked hard, not just started to play at half time. But quality wise they've still been denk.

Norwich don't play until the 30th after today as well (and that's Arsenal away), we'll have played 4 times by then. Fantastic opportunity, but aye obviously it'll get thrown away today.

But him being capable of it doesn't matter when he never provides it anymore and instead just stops our attacks. Well for everyone's sake I hope he proves everyone wrong and is MOTM. Hope so, like others have said Rafa's focus seems to be on total defence and hope Cisse can nick a goal. Perhaps until half time (as we've been better in second halfs for a while now for some reason) with some big changes to try to force a win later in the game if we aren't ahead (hence all options on the bench being attacking).

But him being capable of it doesn't matter when he never provides it anymore and instead just stops our attacks.

I'll back Rafa obviously, but I just can't understand how Sissoko of all people survives the cull. Shelvey has been poor, but not as poor as Sissoko or Wijnaldum, same goes for Perez and Mitrovic.

Mitrovic dropped, Perez dropped, Shelvey dropped, but Sissoko and Wijnaldum still manage to start?, WTF?

Would be more humiliating to want them to lose, confirming our own relegation, just so they go down as well. IMO anyway.

Fucking hell, you go into the game wanting Sunderland to win, then you see Lee Cattermole's face! EDIT: Then you see the thing Allardyce calls a face!!