Northern Monkey

So many English players get told they are "world class" before they've achieved fuck all. Most premiership players live in a world of wealth most people can't even imagine, and thats not top players but bog standard journeymen. No wonder so many of them are complacent, smug twats. I sometimes wonder why I bother renewing my season ticket, I just know I always will.... We've got a couple of them. We've got a couple who are told they are good enough to play in OUR first team when they are never even going to be good enough for proper Premiership strugglers.

Luque Bramble Babayaro Moore Carr need a few more though - Ameobi and Sibierski aren't good enough, and if we had any real intention of being top 6, we could do with better/more consistent players than the likes of Emre and Dyer.

Yes, that bears comparison with Moore, Bramble, Babayaro, Carr, et al. your other option was reading the comment in the context of the conservation. Oh, aye, like THATS going to happen.

So they should vocally support a shite performance, thus validating it?? Do you think booing during the game is more likely to improve their performance or is it more likely they are going to start to feel the pressure, try to force things and make more mistakes/give away possesion? They should be good enough to tonk Andorra, whatever the circumstances. And Israel too, in fairness. Fact is, the players aren't being forced to play to their potential, and the manager is rubbish. If that brings boos, then tough shit.

They didn't want him. You think he's a brilliant defensive coach? Good for you, but you're wrong. The entire coaching/management structure at SJP needs to get peddled, ASAP.

I like how they think sending Richard Keys and Lineker along would sway the FA. "Ooh, a smug looking ex-pro with dubious presenting skills, and the 2nd hairiest man in football.....quick, lads, cancel that contract with the ITV, we're staying with these fellas".

i can think of a couple of things... Did Zambrotta take the term "Butt Pirate" literally when he went shopping for beach attire? Dunno, but his lass is CLEARLY storing up back pain issues for later life.....

Thats not like for like. Brown is nowhere near as much of a liability as that twat Shambles.

I bloody doubt it.

Unless you take pride in us having a s*** defence, him staying won't bring anything but sadness. no, i don't take pride in that. if he embarrasses or disappoints then of course i want him to go. do you really think there's no hope for him to be successful at nufc? jamesD you rate marvell do you not? From what i've seen, he's been disappointing - even dangerous - more often that he's shown quality. In a couple of games he's been the embodiment of that awful "game of two halves" thing, where he has looked good one half, bad the other. But overall, he's not shown an awful lot of promise. I can only speak about him at NUFC, never having seen him play before, and on the basis of his overall performances so far, i have not seen anything that fills me with great hope. (still better than Shambles and Moore, clearly). i've only seen him 1 time in the B&W stripes so, i have to take yours and others' word (which i do) for how he does. i just hope that he can improve to be the CB nufc really need. although, i can't say i'm encouraged by the bit in bold. am i allowed to dream and cross my fingers for a miracle?! http://bears.hosttown.com/style_emoticons/default/v6fx.gif the Bonk got his prayers answered once! What kind of NUFC would you be if you couldn't do that?? ok, good! b/c as a loyal nufc supporter here in the states i claim the right to be irrationally optimistic about our team in general and gooch in particular. God, i hope he comes good. I hope so too, but I don't think he will. Still, where there's life, and all that. One thing for sure, he'll not flourish under Roeder. well, what about that new man nigel pearson? isn't he supposed to be our defensive wunderkind/mastermind etc? No, he's some fella who wasn't good enough for West Brom.

So they should vocally support a shite performance, thus validating it?? Do you think booing during the game is more likely to improve their performance or is it more likely they are going to start to feel the pressure, try to force things and make more mistakes/give away possesion? And what is cheering during a shite performance going to do? Probably going to make them think - i know i've been poor, but they love me, nice one. Ultimately, if the players perform as badly as they have done, they'll get booed, and i think thats fair enough. If they played to anywhere near their potential, they'd be ok. Theres a difference in booing after the game and booing during it though. If we play shit on Saturday will you be standing up midway through the play booing and shouting Roeder is a wanker? I don't personally boo (sounds funny coming otu of my mouth, like a comedy "boo"), but i wouldn't cheer them either, if they were playing proper shit. Playing for NUFC should not guarantee blind support no matter what. As for Roeder, quite possibly. And if their feckless manager getting very justified stick makes the poor ickle footballers play badly, they can wind their overpaid necks in, and get on with their fucking jobs.

Unless you take pride in us having a s*** defence, him staying won't bring anything but sadness. no, i don't take pride in that. if he embarrasses or disappoints then of course i want him to go. do you really think there's no hope for him to be successful at nufc? jamesD you rate marvell do you not? From what i've seen, he's been disappointing - even dangerous - more often that he's shown quality. In a couple of games he's been the embodiment of that awful "game of two halves" thing, where he has looked good one half, bad the other. But overall, he's not shown an awful lot of promise. I can only speak about him at NUFC, never having seen him play before, and on the basis of his overall performances so far, i have not seen anything that fills me with great hope. (still better than Shambles and Moore, clearly). i've only seen him 1 time in the B&W stripes so, i have to take yours and others' word (which i do) for how he does. i just hope that he can improve to be the CB nufc really need. although, i can't say i'm encouraged by the bit in bold. am i allowed to dream and cross my fingers for a miracle?! http://bears.hosttown.com/style_emoticons/default/v6fx.gif the Bonk got his prayers answered once! What kind of NUFC would you be if you couldn't do that?? ok, good! b/c as a loyal nufc supporter here in the states i claim the right to be irrationally optimistic about our team in general and gooch in particular. God, i hope he comes good. I hope so too, but I don't think he will. Still, where there's life, and all that. One thing for sure, he'll not flourish under Roeder.

So they should vocally support a shite performance, thus validating it?? Do you think booing during the game is more likely to improve their performance or is it more likely they are going to start to feel the pressure, try to force things and make more mistakes/give away possesion? And what is cheering during a shite performance going to do? Probably going to make them think - i know i've been poor, but they love me, nice one. Ultimately, if the players perform as badly as they have done, they'll get booed, and i think thats fair enough. If they played to anywhere near their potential, they'd be ok.

Rumoured, mate., Rumoured. Like us and Ronaldo, and all the other totally shite storeis that go round. And it isn't his team play thats in question, he's made some bad individual errors. He IS only new, but there's nothing great about how he's been so far.

Unless you take pride in us having a s*** defence, him staying won't bring anything but sadness. no, i don't take pride in that. if he embarrasses or disappoints then of course i want him to go. do you really think there's no hope for him to be successful at nufc? jamesD you rate marvell do you not? From what i've seen, he's been disappointing - even dangerous - more often that he's shown quality. In a couple of games he's been the embodiment of that awful "game of two halves" thing, where he has looked good one half, bad the other. But overall, he's not shown an awful lot of promise. I can only speak about him at NUFC, never having seen him play before, and on the basis of his overall performances so far, i have not seen anything that fills me with great hope. (still better than Shambles and Moore, clearly). i've only seen him 1 time in the B&W stripes so, i have to take yours and others' word (which i do) for how he does. i just hope that he can improve to be the CB nufc really need. although, i can't say i'm encouraged by the bit in bold. am i allowed to dream and cross my fingers for a miracle?! http://bears.hosttown.com/style_emoticons/default/v6fx.gif the Bonk got his prayers answered once! What kind of NUFC would you be if you couldn't do that??

Or he'll score 3 on two games, and the equally stupid knee-jerk will start saying he's the best player in the world, ever.

Unless you take pride in us having a s*** defence, him staying won't bring anything but sadness. no, i don't take pride in that. if he embarrasses or disappoints then of course i want him to go. do you really think there's no hope for him to be successful at nufc? jamesD you rate marvell do you not? From what i've seen, he's been disappointing - even dangerous - more often that he's shown quality. In a couple of games he's been the embodiment of that awful "game of two halves" thing, where he has looked good one half, bad the other. But overall, he's not shown an awful lot of promise. I can only speak about him at NUFC, never having seen him play before, and on the basis of his overall performances so far, i have not seen anything that fills me with great hope. (still better than Shambles and Moore, clearly).

So they should vocally support a shite performance, thus validating it??

Unless you take pride in us having a shit defence, him staying won't bring anything but sadness.

If it doesn't happen, can we get a promise you won't start any more threads? If it does, will you promise likewise? Choices, choices.

You'd have more chance of being taken seriously if you could put your points across coherently. You're bright enough to figure out what he means. And you know he's right. Roeder is a fucking terrible manager, with a poor transfer record, woeful tactics, fuck all motivaitonal skill, and little ability with the media. He's a disgrace as a manager. Canny bloke though... Oh, aye, lovely. Doesn't like bottlers, mind. They disappoint him.

Dyer should have gotten a 5, max. But he wasn't on long enough to warrant a 3. If he's continued ballsing up he might have, though. As for the Sun, i stopped reading that pile of shite when they offered that keeper a couple of seasons ago a car or something if he kept a clean sheet against us - some minnow we played in the cup. Un-biased national press? My fat Geordie arse.

Neither spot is going to be ours, mate.

You'd have more chance of being taken seriously if you could put your points across coherently. You're bright enough to figure out what he means. And you know he's right. Roeder is a fucking terrible manager, with a poor transfer record, woeful tactics, fuck all motivaitonal skill, and little ability with the media. He's a disgrace as a manager.

Not sure about that tbh. The bit in bold scares the shit out of me. 1) The wasters are not here for the 'long-term' according to Roeder which implies that they are here for the short/medium term. In other words, unless we find anyone thick enough to take them off our hands, their contracts run out or we sign their replacements - we're stuck with them. 2) Roeder is under the impression that he himself has a 'long-term' future at the club. And he has as the same fans are buying, the same fans are attending, and until anything changes the board can do whatever the fuk they feel like. Welcome to the next 20 years. Enjoy. If that was the case, that wanker Souness would still be here.