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Que sera, sera whatever will be, will be we're down inevitably with Joe kinnear

The one journalist <I have complete respect for. If he did write that tweet... Hats off to the bloke.. Top banana!

I am supposed to be observing undergraduate presentations but burst out laughing as I saw this! My sides are sore... POO YONGO BONGO ... ffs!

Tiote - Totty Obertan - Over arm Debuchy - Deboozy Mbiwa - Myway

Just listened to the talkssport interview, the daft cnut actually says "Johan Kebab" whilst talking about the midfield... I actually had to giggle at the guys idiocy!

here it is: More football factory than Tyneside factory: Circus back in town as Joe Kinnear returns to Newcastle United Martin Hardy “Which one?” That was how the circus opened in October 2008. That was how Joe Kinnear made sure he would never be forgotten as a Newcastle United manager, no matter how good or bad a job he did, in the Newcastle media room at the club's Benton training ground, except it was a media room then only in that the media sat in it and it was a room. In truth, it was three leather settees positioned haphazardly, the whirring of a snack machine a reminder that journalists were not originally supposed to be there. Kinnear was unhappy with the coverage of his first day as Newcastle manager; it is worth remembering that it was as big as a surprise back then as it is now. Journalists were bemused that he had not cancelled the players’ day off to meet his squad. Players who, let’s not forget, were doing their best to get the club relegated from the Premier League, as, it appeared, was the owner. Television cameras were for once not allowed into that small room, tucked away on the very end of the training facility. Kinnear kept the journalists waiting two hours. Two hours is a long time in the company of other football writers, but it was worth it. Oh, it was worth it all right. No one will forget Joe Kinnear. How could you? Kinnear, with his greying, curly hair slicked back at the sides, bowled up – and he really did bowl up – and stood in the middle of that room. He could have been Danny Dyer’s old man. More Football Factory than Tyneside factory. His words have gone down in football folklore. The first words he spoke to the local press as Newcastle manager – “Which one?” – was to discover which player had been the most “out of order”. The first response he made was, “You’re a c**t.” Kinnear swore 52 times. It was theatrical gold. He gave and he got. He was 61 years old then. He had the hands of a man who has spent a life working with heavy machinery and the gnarled right finger pointed at those who had provoked the most ire. The left index finger and thumb held a bit of paper with names on it and the rage was such that the paper shook in his hand. Occasionally his voice trembled. Kinnear produced a press conference the likes of which I do not expect to witness for the rest of my career. How could you forget that? It is easier to forget the miserable record as a manager that followed. It appears Newcastle’s owner, Mike Ashley has, and in that there should be no real surprise. Newcastle had not been in the headlines for 26 hours (when a Yohan Cabaye link with Monaco had been denied, though that transfer seems more likely now). Twenty-six hours is a long time in Ashley’s world. So, on a rare, hazy and relaxed Sunday afternoon, Tyneside had another meteor dropped into its heart. It is 12 months since Graham Carr, the Newcastle chief scout, signed an eight-year contract. Three months later, Alan Pardew (left) and his back-room staff did the same. Yesterday afternoon they became subplots in the latest bizarre machinations of Ashley. Kinnear gave an interview yesterday as the new director of football of Newcastle United, admitting he had signed a three-year deal. He did not swear. More importantly, he did not sound like the director of football of Newcastle United. He sounded like the manager. “I’ve been very fortunate in my life as a manager,” he said. “I’ve been manager of the year three times and I’ve had a great football career so I think I’m ideal for this situation. “I’ve been waiting for the opportunity to come back. I’ve turned down managerial jobs in the lower leagues, because I felt I’d gone past that and I wanted to get my teeth into something in the Premier League.” Kinnear sounded like the manager of Newcastle United because he is the manager of Newcastle-in-waiting. Only something special can save Alan Pardew now and, say what you want, but he deserves better than this. Kinnear’s role is officially as a scout, but Carr will not let go of that role. Kinnear will also be a visible presence at the training ground. Ashley has undermined Pardew’s power with yesterday’s decision (and it is Ashley’s decision), but in doing so he has once more undermined his own reputation. In 12 months there has been another sea change in how to run a football club, and now a change to the group of people that were handed contracts until 2020 last year. Kinnear impressed no more yesterday in his new role as scout-cum-director of football than he did at the start of his reign as Newcastle manager. He again tried to popularise the myth that he had had problems because he was not from the North-east. “I didn’t realise Geordies are Geordies,” said the director of football at Newcastle United yesterday. Sometimes you cannot make this stuff up. “Would they object to someone who is Spanish?” he asked. Newcastle fans objected to the appointment of Kinnear because his record was poor and he had been out of the game for four years since his last job in football, at Nottingham Forest, where he left the club 22nd in the Championship. He said yesterday: “My record speaks for itself.” Let’s listen. He was forced to leave Newcastle as manager in 2009 because he was rushed to hospital before an away game at West Bromwich Albion. He underwent heart surgery. For the record, Kinnear’s record was, on average, two wins from every 10 games. The circus, once more, is back in town.

decent summary of the whole charade here: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/more-football-factory-than-tyneside-factory-circus-back-in-town-as-joe-kinnear-returns-to-newcastle-united-8661022.html

The only sensible take on this is that Ashley is using that fukcwit as a tool (pun or not?) to push Pardew over the edge. We know he has very little dignity but bringing in Joe "fukcing" Kinnear would test the resolve of anybody, what worries me is that both of them are so thick they may not worry at all. It may turn out to be a very sublime piece of business from fatboy if Pards does step down, ashley pays no compensation and we get a decent manager and Joe is sacked after three days in the job... Anyway, positive slant welcome as only other alternative is ignoring nufc for the meanwhile :'(

I really think we are crying out for a "busy" nº10 who is willing to work in midfield as well as running up front. We would look much better with a 4-4-1-1 formation: -----------------------Krul------------------------ Debuchy----Taylor----Colo----------Mapou Cabaye Sissoko Hatem Gouffran "Bellamy type" CIsse Cabaye and Sissoko should both be capable of Box-to-box roles and know when to stay and when to go.... Busy nº10 who can hassle press and more importantly is decent at putting a few away...

Hahaha, plastered all over Marca, Spain's football equivalent of the daily sport, deal has been done... just need to ratify with liverpool, 47M€ get out clause...etc...etc...etc... I would just love it!!

Jeesus H christ, bunch of sycophant journos! Do either the Journal or the ronnie EVER say anything against NUFC? It's Luke Edwards from the Telegraph who's banned at the moment (isn't it?)...

7/12 aswell!!! Thought I was going to get less, bloody hard some of those!

Spot on! Equally sad but true... if he does go it'll wipe out that sheer optimism he creates when on the ball, the anticipation of some pure genius taking place in front of you. The few games I went to last season he was the high point, even when he loses out trying to dribble past that third player he still leaves you with the positive feeling of "imagine if he did go that other yard...jeesus". With Ashley and Pardew at the helm it's difficult to think of anything else but the worst, positive side is that he seems to like Newcastle and loves us the fans. Would I like a more consistent winger and a good striker in exchange for Hatem? My brain says yes but my heart and every utopian sinew in my body screams NO!!!

One center back? I hope you mean as far as spending on defence? If Colo goes we need two Centre backs of the same pedigree. I think Williamson is OK as a squad player, not 3rd choice but fourth. I like Perch aswell but only as a defensive midfielder (squad player), he's far too brittle in defence.

I am useless at the quote button...ffs!

I think we are a bit pre-conditioned by the fact that our other two midfielders (tiote/Cabs) dive in a lot and aren't "afraid" to put their foot in. Anita doesn't do that, he does the bent knee, body low, bouncing back and forth shuffle to try and push the player backwards, timing issue I think or just doesn't know how to tackle? Well, tbh, i haven't seen much of that (the closing down) but that maybe more me than him.

He's very good at quickly closing down players but he does lack a good tackle, what he generally does is force them to make a sideways or backward pass by cleverly cutting down the angles. In comparison to Tiote he lacks the vision and timing to make the tackles and turn their possession into ours. his main failing for me tbh, his passing is light years ahead of tiotes...

If we do this we'll be in good shape. A striker, winger, and centre half will leave us with a very solid first eleven. Krul Debuchy - NEW CB - Yanga-Mbiwa - Santon Anita - Sissoko - Cabaye Ben Arfa - Cisse - NEW LW A couple of squad players or young talents will surely be better placed to do something than the likes of Gosling, Shola, or Obertan. Harper going is no loss, he was already finished. Elliot is capable back-up, then we have young lads to fight it out for 3rd choice. Yes, I agree we will have a decent FIRST ELEVEN, but what happens when we have three players out injured and another with a three match ban... WE ARE FUNCKED!

Quick comparison: Benteke for say 17M or Andy for 15M? Bite the arm off one of those!

But they should have been signed the previous summer and then another two or three in the winter to get us back to even keel... Leaving this summer for a replacement of 5-6 players. We are down eight or ten players once the current lot leave/shipped

I think he is a good player aswell but he always has a niggle or something which interrupts that form and it takes him a while (ages!) to get back into a streak. Not consistent is maybe what I'm trying to say, is that due to injuries though???

Short answer is no I don't think we will make more than four or five signings, of those two real prem class...

You genuinely think it's possible for us to sign 10 or 11 players in one window? I genuinely think that we should be capable of signing four or five premier league standard players and two/three youngsters from lower and/or foreign leagues. We are getting rid of 6 (maybe 7 - Colo) and we didn't replace two or three adequately last year. Not a case of possible but MUST as a minimum to progress (does Fatboy want progress...hahaha). We have two months till the start of the season and if Ashley were to say here's 40M... hey presto!

We release players and nonchalantly forget/ignore/reject the need to replace them adequately... Oh well!

Assuming we are 100% getting rid of the following: Harper, Shola, Obertan, Williamson, Simpson, Gosling 5 of which you would say are seasoned professionals and would get games. Last season we never replaced Ba & Best (Lovenkrands replaced by Gouffran), so that's another two and we still aren't sure about Colo... Getting rid of eight players means we should be getting at least six "seasoned" professionals (four/five of which "Purple") and another four or five up and coming if we are to make a difference to the squad and properly compete. Purples (first team players) Striker Striker Central Defender Goal scoring midfielder (sigurdsson type) Squad Players Right Back Winger (left and Right) Box to box midfielder Up and coming Striker Midfield Winger I for one just can't see us making the moves in the market. I reckon we will get two or three first teamers and a couple of squad players/prospects which is going to leave us worse off than where we were a year ago... Any manager would struggle with the above tbh, more so the pleb we have in charge at the moment (although he's not helped at all by fat boy and ratboy).