OzzieMandias

For what it's worth, the friend of mine who met Kinnear dining alone in a restaurant and had a chat with him, reported that Kinnear also reckoned Keegan had mainly come back to earn the funds necessary to keep Soccer Circus going.

What will you do when he doesn't comply?

History.

Sometimes I start writing one word then accidentally type something different. The word local is probably in the top ten most used nouns in my recent coursework. The word local isn't a noun, unless your coursework is all about pubs.

Guardian reckons the asking price is £260 million. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/nov/29/newcastle-united-premier-league

Aye, well it's his fault for buying the club with the intention of selling it, and then not selling it just because the fans want him to.

Well, there's a nice, depressing way to look at things. Well done!

I think it's hard to make this argument now that Southgate, Keane, Adams and others of Shearer's generation have been given a start in the top flight without the kind of lower-league training you describe. Only Ince went through this, and one suspects the only reason he had to is because he's black.

Yeah, but also vice versa. He shouldn't be absolved of responsibility for actions now just because he did so well for us 10-15 years ago.

They'll not actually be producing. They'll just have put some money up.

Yup, and we can celebrate the history he has with us. It's a stupid time to get sentimental about that particular former manager. We most definitely need to move the fuck on.

Keegan is history.

Sir Bobby was given time. Keegan Mk II would have been but didn't give himself time.

I used to think Shearer shouldn't be taking the job without working a while somewhere else first, but I don't feel that way anymore. So many other players of his generation have already taken the manager's job at Premiership clubs -- Keane, Southgate, Ince, Adams... you could maybe also count Hughes -- and while none of those names have really proved themselves so far, none are shaping up as disastrous choices either. Why should Shearer be any worse? At least our volatile support would have to give him some time -- a commodity no one else seems to get.

Nah, Kinnear's been going on since he arrived about Shearer waiting in the wings.

Mike Ashley and Dennis Wise disappear in a puff of smoke. Freddie Shepherd reappears with £500 million in transfer cash and a magical new ability to spot a winning manager. Kevin Keegan comes down from on high in a fiery chariot. Scientists invent a serum of eternal youth and Alan Shearer, Bobby Moncur, Paul Gascoigne and Chris Waddle are restored to their prime and come galloping back into the side. Next season we win a Premiership and FA Cup double. The season after that we win the Champions League.

Sounds like a very tall story.

The corporate boxes didn't sell because the club pushed the prices up to subsidise the cheaper tickets in the larger family section, something that a lot of them seen as taking the piss which is why a meeting was held between all corporate box owners and the club. A lot of people are feeling the pinch at the moment and the first thing to go for some people will be the luxury of going to a football match that costs £30. it was becoming more obvious to the more slow minded, that his DOF bollocks was about to fail dismally. Quite a few still haven't cottoned on, but a lot of people have now paid for their season tickets. If the DOF bollocks continues under Ashley, expect a massive dive next season, perhaps even encompassing lower league football, which in itself will be a result of falling gates and not so much a symptom of anything else. If the current financial climate eases, the gates will still be shit if the club is relegated due to Ashley and his "plan", management structure and DOF bollocks. In fact, didn't you say the club needed a "plan" intimitating that such a plan leads to success or greater success than when they didn't have a "plan". I expect a massive dive whoever is in charge because the country will be in a recession by then. I said the club needs someone to build up the academy and to put in a better scouting network as both were shit, I'm not sure what that has to do with this thread though. rubbish. The thread is about falling gates by the way, and this is my opinion as to why gates are falling. And whats more, I'm right too. Just like I was when I told you the DOF bollocks would lead to absolutely nowhere, and, errr, falling gates as a result. So are you saying falling gates that are going on all around the country have nothing to do with the state of the economy? Learn to read. This thread is about Newcastle's gates. Yeah, obviously everyone else's gates are falling because of the economy, whereas ours are falling because of Ashley.

The corporate boxes didn't sell because the club pushed the prices up to subsidise the cheaper tickets in the larger family section, something that a lot of them seen as taking the piss which is why a meeting was held between all corporate box owners and the club. A lot of people are feeling the pinch at the moment and the first thing to go for some people will be the luxury of going to a football match that costs £30. it was becoming more obvious to the more slow minded, that his DOF bollocks was about to fail dismally. Quite a few still haven't cottoned on, but a lot of people have now paid for their season tickets. If the DOF bollocks continues under Ashley, expect a massive dive next season, perhaps even encompassing lower league football, which in itself will be a result of falling gates and not so much a symptom of anything else. If the current financial climate eases, the gates will still be shit if the club is relegated due to Ashley and his "plan", management structure and DOF bollocks. In fact, didn't you say the club needed a "plan" intimitating that such a plan leads to success or greater success than when they didn't have a "plan". I expect a massive dive whoever is in charge because the country will be in a recession by then. I said the club needs someone to build up the academy and to put in a better scouting network as both were shit, I'm not sure what that has to do with this thread though. rubbish. The thread is about falling gates by the way, and this is my opinion as to why gates are falling. And whats more, I'm right too. Just like I was when I told you the DOF bollocks would lead to absolutely nowhere, and, errr, falling gates as a result. So are you saying falling gates that are going on all around the country have nothing to do with the state of the economy? He probably thinks that the recession is all Ashley's doing, and that Freddie Shepherd should be appointed head of the IMF. Or MFI? I think he's got Craig Bellamy earmarked for that job.

The corporate boxes didn't sell because the club pushed the prices up to subsidise the cheaper tickets in the larger family section, something that a lot of them seen as taking the piss which is why a meeting was held between all corporate box owners and the club. A lot of people are feeling the pinch at the moment and the first thing to go for some people will be the luxury of going to a football match that costs £30. it was becoming more obvious to the more slow minded, that his DOF bollocks was about to fail dismally. Quite a few still haven't cottoned on, but a lot of people have now paid for their season tickets. If the DOF bollocks continues under Ashley, expect a massive dive next season, perhaps even encompassing lower league football, which in itself will be a result of falling gates and not so much a symptom of anything else. If the current financial climate eases, the gates will still be shit if the club is relegated due to Ashley and his "plan", management structure and DOF bollocks. In fact, didn't you say the club needed a "plan" intimitating that such a plan leads to success or greater success than when they didn't have a "plan". I expect a massive dive whoever is in charge because the country will be in a recession by then. I said the club needs someone to build up the academy and to put in a better scouting network as both were shit, I'm not sure what that has to do with this thread though. rubbish. The thread is about falling gates by the way, and this is my opinion as to why gates are falling. And whats more, I'm right too. Just like I was when I told you the DOF bollocks would lead to absolutely nowhere, and, errr, falling gates as a result. So are you saying falling gates that are going on all around the country have nothing to do with the state of the economy? He probably thinks that the recession is all Ashley's doing, and that Freddie Shepherd should be appointed head of the IMF.

no, I don't. I think if Keegan was still manager, or/and if the team was winning games and doing better, the crowds would be better. I find this an amazing comment from someone ie yourself, who - I think - has witnessed the shit crowds and level of rebellion and apathy that existed before 1992 and hasn't surfaced in all this time until now. If I am wrong about your age, then your reply doesn't surprise me. The comment above by cp40 is spot on by the way, as was my earlier post along the same lines. The crowds will continue to go down if we keep losing, so what will you think is the reason for that ? Keegan was still in charge when we played Bolton and we only got 47, 711 Don't confuse him with facts.

I think whats worse is the people who admit they don't know what went on yet are happy to turn against the club in support of an individual because of who he is. Nobody has turned against the club, the people above the manager were buying players despite the manager with experience tellign them he needed players in specfic areas was ignored. Obviously you know that for a fact I presume? As Tooj would say. I know that for a fact, cos I watch the team play and see how short we re of players in vital areas. I can tell you now that KK would not have let that happen if he was left to sign who and what he needed. Just because you think it doesn't make it a fact. Its not about thinking mate, can you seriously sit watching the match and not say to yourself "fuck me we have a thin sqaud/first team" So this then takes it back to who has been signing the players and not listening to the manaher they hired to do the job. Who the fuck signed Xisco when we needed other positions filled first. Can you point out the last period in the club's history when we weren't short of players in vital areas?

Dyer or Faye. Can't say I miss any of these players that much, though.

I should have believed the thread title.

Aye, I bet there are loads of multi-billionaires thinking, "How can I get myself set up for life in Newcastle upon Tyne? Hey, I know! I'll spend several hundred million quid on the football club and hope they win a trophy!"