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Sauasagedog signs a contract extension. Very good summer for them tbh.

No doubt we've been offered Carroll, just not for the price we're willing to pay. I'd be fairly confident that the situation is as follows. We've made our final offer, and it's sitting on the table and will be there until the window closes. If Liverpool come to us on deadline day and say "Fine, we'll take it" then we'll sign him. If not we'll roll with what we have. There's a chance that all of this that we're reading in the press from Pardew is our attempt to convince Liverpool that we won't be going back with a new bid. Maybe we're willing to go back with a million or two more on deadline day if we feel Liverpool aren't going to cave. I doubt it personally, but it's a possibility. Liverpool meanwhile are hoping that either - We'll up our bid on deadline day and they'll squeeze a bit more cash out of us. - Another club becomes interested on deadline day and Carroll can be convinced to go there. I doubt either of those things happen, so ultimately it'll all come down to whether or not Liverpool are prepared to cut their losses and sell him for the amount that we have on the table. It's clear enough that Rogers doesn't rate him and from his perspective I don't see why he'd keep Carroll. They should still get a pretty decent fee for him even if they are making a massive loss, and I'd imagine for the 12m or so we're probably offering Rogers could bring in a player he really likes. Reckon it'll go right down to the last few hours anyway and much will depend on whether Liverpool can get their own targets in. My feeling when we first went after him on loan was that we'd sign him on deadline day, and right now I'm sticking with that.

Montoya with the chance to win it. Awful effort.

Thing is I think Carroll with either of the two of them would be a better partnership than Ba and Cisse are. And to hell with the not liking being rotated. Play well and force the manager to keep picking you. Competition is a good thing, frankly I'd be concerned about the mental strength of any player who took a huff because they had competition brought in for their place. In principle I totally agree, but we've already seen that Pardew seems willing to pander to Ba with this whole 'he wants to play through the middle and he will' 4-4-2 thing. Part of me can't believe that's the only reason he's playing 4-4-2. Do you really think a manager would play what he believes is a weaker system in order to keep one player happy? I know it seems that way, it really does, but it's mental surely?

Thing is I think Carroll with either of the two of them would be a better partnership than Ba and Cisse are. And to hell with the not liking being rotated. Play well and force the manager to keep picking you. Competition is a good thing, frankly I'd be concerned about the mental strength of any player who took a huff because they had competition brought in for their place.

Classicos are so boring like.

Eat that!!

Look like a team in serious need of a good... Pep talk.

Extra incentive for him to try and push for a move surely? Pretty clear he wanted to leave at some point, surely CL football is a decent consolation for him if he's not getting his move? Obviously it's not a 'If they lose, he leaves' scenario but it's not entirely ridiculous to think that Lille going out might help us.

Lille in front, they've looked shite and all up til now.

Snitching cunt. Fuck him.

Catts for me like.

I'm thinking Dave saw that stat posted somewhere... Probably.

The problem is there's 4 days left We knew he was too expensive for us when they rejected our loan offer a month ago. You seriously don't think we're already pursuing other options if the Carroll deal has died? Probably not tbh, no. I think we've put our final offer in for Carroll and we'll give Liverpool right until the deadline to accept it. If we don't get him then we'll roll with what we have for now and hope Carroll gets fuck all game time until January and Liverpool are desperate to get rid. Be very surprised if we sign anyone other than Debuchy or Carroll.

Aye, massive few days. If we sell a big player and bring nobody in it'll be a disaster, last season will essentially have been for nowt in the long term and I could see us regressing this year. If we see no incomings and no outgoings I'll be disappointed, the squad looks a bit thin and we've got more games this year, we'll need to avoid injuries if we're going to push for Europe. Sign a RB and a striker and we have a shot at pushing for fourth. I expect nothing to happen.

Nah, fuck that. I'm not going to hate American players because they play for teams that are rivals of my team. I chose Newcastle. I'll learn the history and realize who the rivals are and enjoy those wins a bit more and lament the losses a bit harder, but I'm not going to turn my back on some shit that I am for something that I chose. If Dempsey going to Sunderland makes the US team better, I hope he goes. It'd be great if he went to Rome, though. That would be way better. *Read this post in the voice George Snr. from Arrested Development* I'm saying you fake it you idiot, I mean how much more obvious can I be? You want me to make a big post in capital letters saying 'JUST PRETEND TO HATE THEM WHILE ON HERE AND BE SECRETLY HAPPY WHEN HE DOES WELL'. I mean come on Michael, take your head out of your ass here.

Don´t be silly What? I also think that strengthening the positions we're weak in would be a good thing, crazily enough.

Aye, the problem isn't that Simpson can't cross (he's a poor crosser of the ball, but it's not THAT important for a fullback to be able to cross the ball), that's not what I mean when I say he offers nothing going forward. The problem is that when we're in possession we can't really rely on Simpson to receive the ball and distribute it effectively, even at a fairly basic level. Under any sort of pressure whatsoever he'll generally just hoof the ball forward. He's not a terrible RB by any means. He's defensively alright and is a good athlete. But if we're serious about progressing and challenging for Europe on a consistent basis then we have to do better IMO.

A RB who's good going forward would improve us so much with Ben Arfa likely to be given a lot of license to roam in from the right, it'll be a real opportunity missed if we spend the year trotting Simpson out there. Wonder if Pardew will consider giving Raylor a go there in certain games if we don't get anyone in, maybe against weaker teams where we're expecting to be on top? Or yeah, we could always buy someone good.

That's completely different. They're your local rivals. Of course you wouldn't give a shit. The Newcastle v Sunderland thing doesn't really mean as much to me. I understand it's like Yankees v Mets or something, but it's not like Dempsey left us to play for them. That would be totally different. 'before' Just trying to spare the guy's feelings. Some basic fucking shit here Mike, how long you been on this board? You know that I understand rivalries, man. You more than anyone. You post in the US threads. But there are Newcastle fans all over the world now, and you have to understand that the stuff that means a lot to you won't mean a lot to some of the foreigners. I remember typing this shit before. I can empathize, but most of the time the Sunderland stuff is just ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ . Your hatred of them is hilarious, but if Dempsey goes there, I'll look out for their results and hope he does well while they stay mid-bottom of the league. You dimwit. You honestly think I care that much about Sunderland? I've never met a Mackem in my life. We didn't have Sunderland fans over here until a few years ago and, knowing what I know now, I mostly just feel bad for them when I hear that's who they support. But once you sign up to serve the black and white then you take on everything that comes with it. James McClean? Hope he turns out to be absolute shite. John O'Shea? Hate the guy now. We're part of war that never ends Michael, it may not be our war but when that inbred Mackem comes at you with his weaponised cheesy chips do you think he sees that apathy in your eyes? No, he only sees the black and white stripes, and it's fight with your brothers or die on your own. So soldier the fuck up, you pussy.

The way some people on here go on you'd think Ba and Cisse were George Weah and Romario and Carroll was Micheal Ricketts. If he comes back and rediscovers his form he'll be first choice striker. Not necessarily because he's better than Ba or Cisse, though he might be, but because he'll give us something that Pardew clearly wants in the team, namely a physical presence up front. Ba and Cisse as a duo hasn't looked good at all so far. They'll probably improve, but they're not a great natural fit by any means. Think both of them would compliment Carroll pretty well though.

16m is probably a bit pricey tbh. That said, it's not like if we don't get Carroll we're going to spend that money elsewhere. It'll be Carroll or nobody IMO, and while I'd rather we went for a different type of player I do think Carroll would be a great addition to the team.

'before' Just trying to spare the guy's feelings. Some basic fucking shit here Mike, how long you been on this board?