Shak

Eh, the general consensus is that most of our players are shite, tbh.

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He's serviceable in that department, but he doesn't worry opponents at all until he gets inside the box. Plays quite well within himself. I'm really quite pleased with my Inzaghi comparison, sums him up well IMO. I don't think it does Shakster, as Inzaghi is far better than the current Michael Owen in my eyes. Don't agree tbh, put Inzaghi in our team instead of Owen and he'd be equally as inneffective, if not more.

Adebayor was the difference today, his confidence is high, he is strong on the ball and has a hunger that our forward line severly lacks. Really? Adebayor was the diffrence today? So by saying that you're saying if Adebayor was on our side we'd of won? Personally i thought the game was lost in the centre of midfiled, we were easily overran in the midfiled, our attacks were broken down with ease and we didnt regain or retain posession well enough. No denying that their midfield is better than ours, but even in the first half when we were well in the game and playing some good stuff we never really looked all that likely to score, due to the lack of real class up front. You knew once Arsenal got going and got the ball into their strikers they'd score. It's a bit of both tbh, but we desperately lack a genuine top class forward.

He's serviceable in that department, but he doesn't worry opponents at all until he gets inside the box. Plays quite well within himself. I'm really quite pleased with my Inzaghi comparison, sums him up well IMO.

I actually misread it as "arse" at first look.

jason koumas genuinely. Jesus wept. Genuinely. was probably wigans best player for the short time he was on today and is more attack minded and creative than any of our current CM's. wouldnt cost much either. If you think he's the answer you're out of your tree. he's 1 answer, as in a squad player who'll do a good job. actually, i now want diego or van der vaart or ashravin or pandev or mordic http://pentaclerecords.net/darien3/oz_scarecrow_1.jpg deeply sorry for having an opinion. i'll learn to blindly agree with others more often. Christ, not that old chestnut. You've got a real chip on your shoulder about that. Pretty sad imo. i have a differing opinion and i get at least 4 different people telling me im wrong, then basically mocking my posts. NSG was right, clique-tastic baby. Apologies that we don't agree with your opinion that one of Wigan's reserves is the answer to our problems. It's called debate. That's what this place is for. If you don't like it, you know where to go. Back to the merry old land of Oz? Things aren't always so merry in OZ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iM4Ooc2B2o

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Ouch. What teams were the accumulator?

We could sign Bentley and Diego tomorrow and we'd still struggle for goals with our current strikers. Martins or Owen would both be very effective with a really top class CF to work off, but both are generally a bit lost without one. I disagree with that - we do have good strikers. And we'd score more goals as a team. When Viduka doesn't play we have nobody up front with any class whatsoever on the ball. Obviously Diego and Bentley would improve us, but someone like Torres would improve us much more. (Not suggesting Torres is a realistic target before some people go into histrionics)

We could sign Bentley and Diego tomorrow and we'd still struggle for goals with our current strikers. Martins or Owen would both be very effective with a really top class CF to work off, but both are generally a bit lost without one.

Is a top class Center-Forward. Not a CB, not a holding midfielder, not a midfield playmaker, not a right-winger. As it stands we have nobody, absolutely nobody, that really worries opposing teams up front. Someone that can give us that little bit of magic in the penalty area and drop off and succesfully link the play between midfield and attack and create space and chances for his teammates, along with chipping in with a few goals of his own. It's the main reason why today, despite playing some really tidy stuff and putting a bit of pressure on Arsenal in the first half, we didn't actually look all that likely to actually score. As it stands, these are our striking options. Owen : The new Filippo Inzaghi. Offers almost nothing in terms of general build up play, but will score you bags of goals if he's surrounded by a team that will give him top service, as his movement in the box and finishing are quality. Martins : Has the potential to score a goal from absolutely nothing, but his vision, touch and teamwork are all dreadful. Can't play through him at all as the ball is as likely to ricochet high into the stands as find it's way to a teammate. Viduka : Actually the closest thing to what I'm talking about. But he's inconsistent, injury prone and at the tail end of his career. Would make a great back-up to whoever we bring in though. Smith : Just supremely average at the end of the day. Does a half-decent job of dropping off from the front and getting involved, but just doesn't have the class or ability to open teams up or score enough goals to justify a regular place in the team. Shola : Not good enough, sadly. I think both Owen and Martins would benefit tremendously from a player like this alongside them, someone who will do the bulk of the work and allow them to come into the game sporadically rather than try and get heavily involved, which they struggle at. Unfortunately, the odds of getting such a player at this time of the year are minimal. But come the summer time this has to be our number one priority, and if Keegan has the transfer kitty he's rumoured to have to bring in players, I'd be heavily in favour of spending a sizeable portion of it on one top class center-forward. We can bring in all the playmakers and wingers we want, but we'll never beat teams consistently until we have this type of player at our disposal. Suggested this at the start of the season and was roundly shot down by the way, let's see how it goes this time.

What is it with us starting the second half so poorly?

Rebound came to three of our players in a group and they somehwo managed to present it to Adebayor. Mostly Taylor at fault.

... Faye? (Woodgate and Taylor CB) Perhaps, not sure what his best position is tbh. Seems like more of a 4-3-3 holding midfielder, if you know what I mean. Just sit in front of the back 4 and let th other two do all the creative work.

ending in tears is playing like utter dire s**** for 45 minutes and scraping into half time at 0-0 and trying to tell yourself that is somehow 'good'. And then getting done over 6-0. This will probably end in a loss but I'll go to bed happy. Bed at 5 in the afternoon? Fair play

Not really. Think he takes too long in possession to be at his best in the middle. Better of putting him out wide where he can just go at people as he's not a playmaker by any means. Could potentially be a very good CM if we got a really class supporting striker who would drop deep and do the bulk of the playmaking, ala Bergkamp or someone in that mold. But those players are a wee bit tricky to find generally. He's never a centre-midfielder. There's a trend to my comments after games now. We need centre-mids! Interested to see if Emre and Barton have much/any future under KK. We really need a DM though.

Ameobi? Ameobi has always been s*** But he was an England U-21 regular for a time was he not? I think Milner is a decent player, but he just has a lower upside than most. It's hard to ever see him being a significantly better player than he is now, sadly.

Not really. Think he takes too long in possession to be at his best in the middle. Better of putting him out wide where he can just go at people as he's not a playmaker by any means. Could potentially be a very good CM if we got a really class supporting striker who would drop deep and do the bulk of the playmaking, ala Bergkamp or someone in that mold. But those players are a wee bit tricky to find generally.

Enrique's passing/crossing is absolutely dreadful. The rest of his game looks very good though.

Been the better side so far tbh. Actually playing it around a bit, very confusing stuff.

He's too thick to take offence man, i wouldn't worry. Beat me to it.

Only a matter of time before N'Zogbia is the NO.1 left wideout on the depth chart tbh. Exactly, we're slightly more than a week away from the Super Bowl. The hype is setting into my subconscious. Gonna be the worst superbowl ever. It'll be doing well to be worse than Seattle vs Pittsburgh tbf, absolutely rubbish game.

He'll have to add consistency to his game in order to be comparable to Dyer? Dyer was a better player than a lot give him credit for, but he had about 1 really good game a year and was generally dreadful the rest of them. So he played well once in every, say, 8 games. Hardly any more productive than N'Zogbia on average.

Only a matter of time before N'Zogbia is the NO.1 left wideout on the depth chart tbh.