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Valencia it is then.

Wolud love Valencia here.

Think it's because he wanted number 10 but Freddy Eastwood already has it.

We can only sell him if we get a replacement imo. No matter how much money Villa offer we cannot afford to lose another first team player without replacing him.

Seemed to tire and lose concentration as the game went on imo. Looked very good for the first 80 mins though.

Desperatly need to get those 3 in that Keegan wants. I presume it's a LB, CM and a Striker. We'll be really short imo if we don't get them in, especially the CM.

I'd go something similar but with Enrique in at LB and Bassong replacing one of the CB's.

Lua Lua is still injured methinks.

Hope not tbh. Carling Cup is a competition we could go far in. In a way would rather field the weakened team at Arsenal as we'll likely get beat or only pick up a piont there anyway whereas the Carling Cup if we field a full strength team we could likely make it the the Quarters or maybe even further.

Anton Ferdinand off to Sunderland it seems. Again, like of a few of Sunderland's signings, I wouldn't want him here but he is definetly an improvement over what they have.

Yep, but Wenger said he was too young to go out on loan at the time.

Malouda is a left winger.

Wouldn't want Malouda, has looked poor at Chelsea.

Probobly finalising the moves we'll be making in the last days of the transfer window.

Not even on the bench for Chelsea today.

Was just about to post my views on the match but that completely sums up what I was going to say.

To be fair a lot of the atmosphere was down to the new singing section, it definetly made a difference.

Same here. Owen won't be fully match fit yet.

Left back, attacking midfielder and another striker before the end of the window and ill be happy.

Diffferent because Charlie was on a youth deal not a professional contract at Le Harve.

Webster's registration wasn't held up until the amount of the compensation was agreed though was it? Theoretically, there should be no hold up at all as it's quite clear in the regulations that he is entitled to break his contract, the only matter to be resolved is the amount of the compensation and to whom it should be paid. Can't really blame the club if FIFA/UEFA are being slow about it. Going off memnory I don't think Webster played until it was all sorted. Theoretically that's how it should work but the ruling is just too new for it too work like that, it may work like that in 2 or 3 years time but not at the moment.

I doubt this will take as long to sort out as the original ruling was based on nothing, this one has a precedence to follow. Well be used as a test case to fine tune the rules, not set them. It's not precedent in one sense as the ruling has been used before. But it is precedent as it is the first time dual ownership has come into it and unfortunately although we have nothing to do with the Mallorca/Velez who gets the most compensation battle, we won't be allowed to register Gutierrez until it's sorted.

so reading that i wonder why he's being trumpeted as a new signing when in reality he's not until we pay whatever we're told to pay, which then may negate the "wonder deal" he was magic Strictly speaking we won't have to pay anything, Gutierrez will, but I assume we'd pay it for him anyway.The cost of the deal will depend on what clauses Gutierrez had in his contract e.g. future goal bonuses and how much the FIFA hearing decides those clauses are worth. This could also be delayed by the fact by the sounds of it Velez and Mallorca are fighting it out to see who gets more money.

Fucks sake people how many times do I have to post this. Article 17 is not yet like the Bosman ruling. You can't just invoke it and sign the player. You have to invoke it then if the selling club (Mallorca) refuses to recognize Article 17 then FIFA/UEFA have to hold a hearing (which based on the Webster precedent took a decent amount of time) to decide who pays who how much compensation, which is further complicated in this case by the fact Mallorca and Velez both own him. The dual ownership aspect of Article 17 has never been seen before so there is no precedent so it will take more time to get FIFA to transfer his registration.

I mentioned this a few weeks ago. He won't get his registration until FIFA/UEFA hold a hearing to decide how much compensation and who it is owed too (Mallorca or Velez). This is precisely the problem with using Article 17, especially if the club losing the player refuse to recognize Article 17, which is what Mallorca are doing. Webster took months too sort out and without sounding like a doom merchant it wouldn't surprise if this wasn't sorted by the weekend or even later.