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We don't need a new RB. It wouldn't surprise me if Geremi became the new RB. When all are fit Smith, Barton, Butt, Emre, Dyer, Solano and N'Zogbia can all play in CM so it wouldn't aurprise me when bodies return if Geremi moves to RB.

Bloody hell! I'd say £5m for Jones is massively overvalued, I wouldn't pay anything over £2m for him.

So far I'm very happy. We could still do with another RB though.

I think the re-evaluation is bullshit. I think it's far more likely Ashley stepped in ans said to Allardyce and Mort what are you doing selling Dyer for £5m.

Villa and Sunderland have had £9 million bids for Craig Gordon accepted according to the Beeb. Crazy money for a goalkeeper.

If he doesn't get in Europe he'll be sacked by next summer.

We looked much better in the 2nd half playing 4-3-3.

To be fair it happened at a difficult time for the papers. Most had already gone to print by the time people realised a fee had been agreed on Friday night and then by the sunday papers it was old news

Can't see him being back until atleast September/October. It can take 6 months to recover from a broken ankle.

Needs to play for fitness. As does everyone else in our squad. Shouldn't be resting anyone for our final preseason freindly.

Think it looks very nice.

The only thing you could say about 3 left-backs is Dragutinovic can play CB and Enrique can play left wing.

Curbishley has said the move is definetly off.

You're being slightly gullible here, Dyer hasn't just realised that his kids are in Ipswich after spending the summer at West Ham has he? From what I've read he spent the summer in London training with an ex-West Ham physio who was hired by Roeder to sort out Owen and Dyer.

I don't think Allardyce will allow Dyer to cause shit in the dressing room, in fact I think that Dyer would be made to train on his own if he started doing that. Kieron Dyer has a lot more to lose in this than we do. Dyer will lose his England place if he is not playing regularly. Best he does a James Milner, gets his head down, doesn't complain and let his football do the talking. I think it's impossible to compare his situation to Milner. Dyer's problem is not with the club it's with the fact his kids are hundreds of miles away in Ipswich. I actually think Ashley's move is rather disgraceful as family should be more important than business and he risking dyer's relationship with his kids just so he can swueeze a little bit more from West Ham. i heard he asked for a 2mill loyalty bonus. if thats so then he can go to hell. If that's the case then I agree with you but from what I've read in the papers today the deal stalled because Ashley intervened and said he wanted £2 million more. However if it does emerge he asked for a loyalty payment then we were right to tell him to get stuffed.

Dyer is a self-centred petulant turd who has got his own way every day of his umpteen seasons here. He has had maybe half a dozen good games in his time here. He's a parasite who won't change his ways because he has no experience of "getting his head down" Shepherd and Robson in paticular, then Souness and Roeder have created the whining self-important overpaid monster that Dyer is today. Very unfair assessment of Dyer I feel, sure he was twat when he was younger and I do not like him as a player but over the last year or two he has worked real hard to get over his injuries and succeeded.

I don't think Allardyce will allow Dyer to cause shit in the dressing room, in fact I think that Dyer would be made to train on his own if he started doing that. Kieron Dyer has a lot more to lose in this than we do. Dyer will lose his England place if he is not playing regularly. Best he does a James Milner, gets his head down, doesn't complain and let his football do the talking. I think it's impossible to compare his situation to Milner. Dyer's problem is not with the club it's with the fact his kids are hundreds of miles away in Ipswich. I actually think Ashley's move is rather disgraceful as family should be more important than business and he risking dyer's relationship with his kids just so he can swueeze a little bit more from West Ham.

I don't see it as an idiotic move, if Dyer does play up then we can do to him what we did to Robert when we farmed him out but were still paying his wages, we can fine him. We're sending out a message that we're not mugs and will not just go along with what Dyer or West Ham want us to go along with. Bowing to a player or another club would have been idiotic. We're no longer going to be a soft touch and will only benefit from this stance in future when we're dealing with other clubs and players. We have an asset worth £6 million and the way we are going we will end up with an asset worth a lot less. We have to remember Dyer's situation with his family greatly complicates the situation and basically means we can only sell him to clubs in London or MAYBE the Midlands. That leaves us with only 9 Premiership clubs we can geographically sell him to and that number is cut to 3 (Villa, West Ham, Spurs) when you think of who would realistically want him, could afford him and could pay his wages. If we don't sell him other than seeing him sit on the bench for a year we get nothing. We still have to pay his huge wages and I can't see Allardyce playing him as undoubtly his mood will have an affect on how he plays.

Both Newcastle and Everton have had bids accepted for Baines and he is holding talks with both clubs according to skysports.com Link

Idiotic move by us. We really have no hand to play. If the transfer doesn't go through we are left with a player who does not want to be here and who will undoubtly become dejected and be of no value to us on the pitch. I mean can anyone actually see Dyer coming back and getting on with it, I certainly can't and I thoroughly expect him to play up fuck and disturb the dressing room until he gets his wish. It's going to be a complete disaster as if we keep him as undoubtly we'll have to sell him in January or next summer for half the price as he'll mope about and stir shit which will leave us no option but to not play him.

Never had a problem with them myself and been with them about 2 years.

Ashley after more cash seems to be the general consensus.

All the papers say the deal has collapsed and unless Newcastle drop their price it won't go through.

Like the sound of this guy, get him in.

From what I've read if both deals are done then Smith and Cacapa are likely to join Allardyce at his pre-Sampdoria press conference, which is later today.