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Someone should email this thread to Mort. At least he should know how the vast majority of the fans feel before making a decision.

I'll say yes to that. I can talk myself into believing in them two.

I was having this argument yesterday with a smoggie who actually supports Man Utd. I had barely any hair left after the two hour 'debate' on why our expections should be higher than what Allardyce is (or would have been) able to deliver for us.

Possibility that Mort and Ashley don't see eye-to-eye on this? Would explain why Mort's been saying that they're backing Sam etc. but then maybe one day Ashley said 'no, he's got to go' and that's that.

Yea, I can see why Newcastle fans would be averse to winning 5 trophies in one season. Just not our style.

Why no thanks to Houllier? Experienced, loaded with contacts around Europe, been free for a bit so has had time to get a fresh perspective, and has managed in England before and did relatively well. And the best part about him? He would actually come!

He's not even in England though, so I doubt it.

Bellamy was still sold against Hughes wishes, with a clause that was kept secret from him by the chairman. This season, Blackburn are 3 points off 6th despite having quite a few periods without key players being available. Blackburn have been better than us post-Robson thanks to Hughes. We are not as good a team as you are making out, hence the quality of manager that is considered to be the best available to us. Source for the 'behind the back' thing? IIRC Hughes just kept quiet about it but it was obvious that it existed. He was asked about it for ages in the second half of that season and said 'no comment' or something to that effect. But maybe I'm wrong. And there's no point bringing up injuries. They've had two or three of their best players playing for most of the time (Santa Cruz, Bentley and Samba). If you're going to mention injuries, we've lost Viduka, Owen, Duff, Emre and Faye for a significant amount of time.

The difference is though that Allardyce has throughout his career worked at smaller clubs with smaller names. Hughes has been amongst some quality in his time as a player, and I can see that helping when it comes to acquiring players with a greater transfer backing. Using that last logic we might as well bring in Shearer. And how will it help him acquire players? I would think that since Sam's been in the club football business for longer, he'd have way more contacts than someone like Hughes who's still at his first club. And we've seen how that's worked out for us. We need someone who knows how to spend big, someone's experienced who's been there and done that. Any other type of manager (maybe except an unknown like Shearer/Klinsmann/Van Basten) would make the Allardyce sacking pointless. Again, no thanks.

You're wrong about selling Bellamy because he needed to raise funds. Bellamy was sold because there was a clause in his contract. He hasn't been forced to sell anyone to raise funds. So I will look at his 10th place last season, and I will look at the position that Blackburn are in this season. No thanks.

:lol: I'm nearly in tears here. JR would have to commentate too to make it a perfect scenario.

There is that, but ultimately, everyone in the football world is linked. Diarra was no doubt being courted by a number of clubs including Spuds, I believe. You can join these dots many ways, but only the clinically insane would join them to form Redknapp's ugly mug. I reckon the Diarra deal was instigated by Mourinho who's been lurking in the shadows for a few weeks now. Most of our support are clinically insane though. I mean, we are still supporting the club.

It's a bit out there but the link to the agent's there, and him mentioning Kelmsley and his link to Ashley and Redknapp's also there. It's as farfetched as a superagent calling up Oliver to ask for Mort's number tbh...

James is making some good points this morning

That's true, but I'm just saying, Mort could see himself as that person for now (seeing as the window will close in a couple of weeks) and signing young highly rated players is what we should be doing anyway. The logic's there, not that I'm suggesting he takes charge of all the transfer business now. Diarra was wanted by Sam, Wenger and Mourinho. It'll be a good signing either way (if it happens) because he'll improve our center midfield by a lot.

Is Redknapp friends with 'the Jose Mourinho camp' then? I was actually hoping what Anal was true because that'd mean someone special, someone with real quality. Redknapp's not that and neither is Hughes.

No doubt. Anal backing to talking shit then.

We had something daft like two shots on goal. They should have won the game if Reo-Coker wasn't a selfish bastard. There was just no attacking intent showed by our team, and this was against a team that many said we'd have to be competing with for 6-8th. It was negative and unacceptable stuff man. I still would have given him the season just because we really have nothing to lose, but the signs were there from the SECOND game that we'd be shit offensively and only alright defensively.

Voted within 3 years but I think any half decent manager, given the players here and the money that would probably be available, would be able to accomplish that. We're not looking for 6th place in 3 seasons, we have to aim higher and look at Champions League football in 3 seasons. Allardyce wouldn't have been able to do that imo.

If he does have someone quality lined up then credit to him for having the balls to do it now Here's hoping.

I don't see it as a massive problem tbh. Isn't this the way Spurs operate? Person 1 signing the players and then Person 2 coaching the team?

Depends how much Ashley and Mort rate him ? He would be their choice. Not yours, or mine. What would you then say would be the reason for sacking Sam ? When replacing him with a manager who likes to wheel and deal among the 2m pound johnny average footballers ? You have to accept this, or concede that they genuinely rate Redknapp. The acid test is, how do they back him, rather than the actual choice, because we all have our opinions and they are no different to anybody else in that respect. If they see him as a reasonable manager who will hold our own in the premiership, and don't really back him, and appoint him on that basis, then I'm sorry but you are going to have to accept that their ambitions for the club are also limited, and not so much as the old board. So - do you think Liverpool etc would appoint Harry Redknapp ? After all, we've listened to people spouting off for ages that the fat bastard was taking the club backwards, lowering standards etc and anybody else would be better ? Don't get me wrong, I'm disappointed this has all happened yesterday, but the fact is that now they have to show their hand now, so we will see what they do. As always, I will believe they are better when they prove it, and their ambition for the club. I think asking what Liverpool would do is quite misleading. You're right in that the real test will come in how much they back whoever they appoint, but if you're going to ask whether Liverpool would appoint Harry Redknapp, I could easily ask whether Liverpool would hire Graeme Souness, Glenn Roeder or Sam Allardyce?

I wouldn't.

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