Unbelievable

I can see why Derby County players would respect McClaren's experience and knowledge of the game, what with them being Championship players and him having managed at a higher level, but I don't think the same will apply here at all sadly.

Not when this arsehole is the manager it doesn't. What makes Carr this "super" scout ? because we got a bargain in Cabaye, brought in Sissoko on the cheap before his contract ran down and a few promising youngsters in Haidara and Perez ? There's really not much else of note on his resume, remember the team he's helped to build has finished 16th, 10th and 15th in the last 3 season (under awful management but still there has been an acknowledgment that the squad has simply not been good enough). Is this really better than the scouting they have at clubs like Southampton, Swansea, Crystal Palace or any other club that finished way above us last year. "Jobs for the boys" very rarely if ever works. Carr isn't going anywhere though, so you might as well bring in someone that will work with him, surely?! IMO Carr has done a good job getting players in, and it's a damn shame they haven't been used properly for the most part. I still stand by what I said earlier regarding Carr being an excellent scout for our model. It's not just the good players we brought in, but also the good players he identified early when they were still attainable, such as Aubameyang, Thauvin and Lacazette to name just a few. If anything, they club should have put more trust in him and not be so inflexible in their valuations the squad could have been much stronger, league results much better and they would have made an even bigger killing in the transfer market.

I have defended Carr plenty in the (even recent) past, but I agree his role in this charade is quite contemptible. With his knowledge of European football you would have expected him to be able to pinpoint an up and coming manager that fits the profile, rather than a past it mate of his. Smacks of putting his personal priorities above that off the club, something I was confident he off all people in charge at the club was not interested in.

What are you lot talking about? Don't you know our model allows us to be the best club in the Premier League pound for pound?

I cannot wait to see us splash the cash this summer too. All hail the new enlightened Mike Ashley era.

9th is right about where NUFC belong innit?

10m for James fucking Chester

You have to be an even bigger fool to start your career here. Shearer is a demi God around these parts yet it only took 8 games with a downbeat squad spiraling towards the abyss to never be considered a viable candidate again.

Spot on Wullie

But, but, that can't be true. Luke Edwards who mentioned he had other options and no meeting was even planned was only being bitter because he was banned by the club, or so people said.

Pretty clear what he meant like

People are going on in here as if the club haven't made arses of themselves before in the PR department, raising hopes by planting stories about transfer activity, ambitious appointments and future investment than through incompetence or neglect (you choose) making the worst decision time after time after time. This is what Mike Ashley practically specialises in, and after 8 years some people have still not cottoned on to it

So that's two sources (DM and Telegraph) saying we are not actually in talks with Vieira even though we may be interested, contradicting earlier claims by the two club's mouthpieces. Hmmm.

Don't know about that - he has certainly reported him a contender. But when the story first broke he seemed to be genuinely angry about it. It's at the stage now, where you think that if there was absolutely nothing in it at all, that Vieira would have issued a denial. Particularly considering he is currently in a job. Oh, I'm sure they've talked/will talk to him, just as I'm certain they have talked to Garde in January and had no intention to appoint him or grant even the most basic of requests. If you believe that NUFC really want to appoint somebody like Vieira, who will have some reasonable demands of his own that are completely incompatible with our "model", you pretty much have to believe that Mike Ashley has turned a corner and I don't buy that for one second personally.

Aye because it goes against his McClaren guesswork/narrative. Alternatively he knows exactly who/what he is dealing with and doesn't take anything "club sources" feed him for granted after having been fed their PR shit for years. He's almost certainly correct in this instance, as most people on here know/suspect deep down.

Can't help thinking the only reason he is even on our radar is because if he succeeds we would stand to gain a massive amount of compensation a few years down the line when Wenger finally packs it in or Man City (or France) look for a manager.

This. Art galleries FFS. Nowt to do with him wanting to bring in his own backroom staff, no sir...

like who though? Like Garde, Gourvennec, Jemez, De Boer, Galtier, etc?

This doesn't sound like Ashley's blueprint at all. Don't believe a word of it.