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Which was the point i was trying to get at. The business was fundamentally sound and the people at Barclays who make decisions like that arent accountants, they are business analysts. They look at future growth opportunities and trends in markets. Thats how google was valued so highly when it was still loss making. As quayside has noted you can make 2.5m loss a year and still be in tip top condition. So what exactly does it mean to be putting that loss into the accounts? It can mean fuck all. This whole debate is based around Mort's idea that a premiership football club with massive revenues could have gone bust. Notwithstanding the lawyerly way he phrases that statement, i still think its a load of shit. The business wasnt great but with high revenues, increased TV money to the tune of 30m a year and increasing demand for football and the success of the prem brand across the globe, it just doesnt add up. In this instance Mort was being a bit of a drama queen.

Is Kemsley running the fucking club? Seems like a good coach from what I've heard.

Pm'ed me a picture of his cock as well. Same here. and i still think you're a girl

Pm'ed me a picture of his cock as well. Same here.

QFT.

Hope he is ok and gets a chance to work things out.

Link...? Not yet. Watch the lunchtime regional news, they should mention it. Very Vic.

Link...?

what are your reasons for wanting him gone and who do you think will do a better job? Thats the same question loads of our own fans have asked me, because ive been quite vocal. First the reasons i want him out. Basically i think his team selections are completly dubious. Yes he picks his best players 90% of the time. But how players like Kewell, play regualr, when we have good young players like Babbel on the bench amaze me. Babbel is still learning the game but the only way to learn is to play often, although to be fair last night was his 3rd consecutive game. I will never understand why he constantly plays our crap reserve keeper in cup matches, its not as if Reina is going to get tired. Also all to often we only see the best of Liverpool in the last 20 minutes of the game when we start proper attacking, why we carnt do that from the first minute i dont know. And basically i think although he has done wonders for the club, remember Liverpool and Newcastle were in very similar posistions, when we played you on the last day of the season. Houllier left then and Rafa come in, Robson left a few games into the next season. But i do belive he has took us as far as he ever will, and someone needs to come in and take us up that next step before we go backwards. Who to take over, honestly i dont know, but if that attitude stopped us from changing managers we would still have souness. To be honest i think we missed the boat a bit with Ramos, spurs have gone from being in the worst Three teams in the premiership in September (remember how bad they were against everton) to in my opionion, looking better than Liverpool look now. Then theres Jose, people say he was good at Chelsea because of the amount of money he spent, but i dont remember him spending that much at Porto. What i will say in favour of Benitez, if you look at all the players he bought, and all the players he sold, he has spent less than 20 million a year. About the price of an average Manchester united midfielder. The only players he has spent more than 10 million on, are Torres, Alonso and Babbel, Two very good players, and one who may be in the future. I hope im proved very much wrong about Rafa, but i seriously doubt it. I think Babbel is a work in progress, but I'd rather start him than Kewell, I'm with you on that. The reason the team holds back is cause he doesn't let the full backs maraud till the end of the game if you need a goal. Ultimately for all his muppetry SA was right in the sense that RB is too cautious for the PL. Needs to drop Kuyt who is dreadful and Pennant was a terrible buy as well.

Good lad.

Because the idea put forward by the media is that no club has a right to think of itself as being a bit different, more special, based on a different way of thinking than anyone else. Which is utter fucking shite. You obviously lap up whatever Martin Samuel wants to feed you. Do you boycott all of news international of just the sun? Apparently not as you seem to be just regurgitating his ill thought out and simplistic point of view. Clubs are different, fans are different, places have different affinities to their clubs. Bilbao, Napoli, Barcelona are just a few examples of why clubs are not created nor should be treated equally. It may seem a contradiction but you can only really see this when you are capable of objectively looking at the situation, rather than from a partisan point of view. Show me a Wigan fan who thinks they are just as special as Barcelona and i'll show you a retard. Good examples. More a way of life than a club. Cultural impact of such clubs and their hinterland is what makes them special.

Rafa the gumbie has blown it and the yanks will use your clubs profits to fund their other enterprises. They don't give a fuck about you or your club, the quicker you lot make a stand the better.

Shepherd and the Halls got their cut before that. Foreign investors coming out of every corner of the world, desperate to get a piece of the pie, season tickets and tv deals rising every year, but still, nobody makes any money out of it. The players?

I'm sure he is hinting that you behaved like a bairn when Allerdyce was sacked, he probably doesn't understand how much you wanted Allardyce to do well so I wouldn't worry too much about his comments. I think I do.

Finally out of the fetal position eh?

You haven't mentioned anyone in there who would either come, is a perm-crock or semi-crock or help the aged.

Even worse on Sunday. He's a competent centre half. But he's never a right back. Defender, not a footballer. Not realistic. Niether are several other names mentioned such as Yaya Toure, Diego, van der Vaart, Carrick and Dunne. it would be hard yes, but not neccicerially unrealistic if we say went on a bit of a run and finished top half, spent big in the summer, offered lyon 20 million, benzema 60K a week and offered him premiership football, a big stadium and 50=60millions worth of other new signings to play with. if he wanted to move to the prem i have a feeling it would be to liverpool, but its worth a shot. SAF is interested in signing him.

Perhaps he would have bought MF targets in the Jan window...No one can really know. What became pretty obvious was that Allardyce simply did not have the confidence of Ashley/Mort. For a man who built his career on results football, the results started indifferently and were headed south at an alarming rate. He may have had targets but he didn't have the backing to buy them, and he can only blame himself for that. He tried to impose a tactical system with players it clearly didn't work with. Unless he was going to buy 11 new players it was irrelevant. A couple of midfielders would not have changed the fact our entire strikeforce was utterly unsuited to Allardyce's tactics. It would not have changed the fact that our midfielders were by ability, fitness and temperament all unsuitable to his defensive flooding tactics. All we can know is that Allardyce simply failed to come to grips with the players he had to use. So all we were left with was Bolton. The prospect, that given time, and money, he may well turn us into another Bolton, with perhaps slightly better results. No-one here wants to become Bolton. We certainely don't want to risk being relegated trying. So he got booted, and rightly so. At the time I thought 'may as well give him til summer' but in retrospect it was the right thing to do. Allardyce never showed he could adapt tactics, or change in any way to suit far higher expectations and far different playing staff. In short, we do know. We know he wasn't good enough. How would they know shit from shat? in fairness, they got that one right - Allardyce was crap. I'm only really arguing the timing anyway. What were the alternatives? When do you think was the best time to get rid? Summer or straight away as I've said earlier. But in all honesty these things are always problematic and hard to judge.

Perhaps he would have bought MF targets in the Jan window...No one can really know. What became pretty obvious was that Allardyce simply did not have the confidence of Ashley/Mort. For a man who built his career on results football, the results started indifferently and were headed south at an alarming rate. He may have had targets but he didn't have the backing to buy them, and he can only blame himself for that. He tried to impose a tactical system with players it clearly didn't work with. Unless he was going to buy 11 new players it was irrelevant. A couple of midfielders would not have changed the fact our entire strikeforce was utterly unsuited to Allardyce's tactics. It would not have changed the fact that our midfielders were by ability, fitness and temperament all unsuitable to his defensive flooding tactics. All we can know is that Allardyce simply failed to come to grips with the players he had to use. So all we were left with was Bolton. The prospect, that given time, and money, he may well turn us into another Bolton, with perhaps slightly better results. No-one here wants to become Bolton. We certainely don't want to risk being relegated trying. So he got booted, and rightly so. At the time I thought 'may as well give him til summer' but in retrospect it was the right thing to do. Allardyce never showed he could adapt tactics, or change in any way to suit far higher expectations and far different playing staff. In short, we do know. We know he wasn't good enough. How would they know shit from shat? in fairness, they got that one right - Allardyce was crap. I'm only really arguing the timing anyway.

Sorry mate but you're paranoid if you think people here have been trying to start an argument with the mods. Quite a few people have posted genuine questions, some have been answered, while others have been met with flippant posts by people who seem to take questions as some form of attack. I honestly don't understand what you're problem is. Indi's name is in red now that is the core of the problem he can only see in red.

I just love the way he connects with the game and his heart on the sleeve approach. Would have been good for us to help out after SBR.

Perhaps he would have bought MF targets in the Jan window...No one can really know. What became pretty obvious was that Allardyce simply did not have the confidence of Ashley/Mort. For a man who built his career on results football, the results started indifferently and were headed south at an alarming rate. He may have had targets but he didn't have the backing to buy them, and he can only blame himself for that. He tried to impose a tactical system with players it clearly didn't work with. Unless he was going to buy 11 new players it was irrelevant. A couple of midfielders would not have changed the fact our entire strikeforce was utterly unsuited to Allardyce's tactics. It would not have changed the fact that our midfielders were by ability, fitness and temperament all unsuitable to his defensive flooding tactics. All we can know is that Allardyce simply failed to come to grips with the players he had to use. So all we were left with was Bolton. The prospect, that given time, and money, he may well turn us into another Bolton, with perhaps slightly better results. No-one here wants to become Bolton. We certainely don't want to risk being relegated trying. So he got booted, and rightly so. At the time I thought 'may as well give him til summer' but in retrospect it was the right thing to do. Allardyce never showed he could adapt tactics, or change in any way to suit far higher expectations and far different playing staff. In short, we do know. We know he wasn't good enough. How would they know shit from shat? I'd say it was pretty obvious considering they sacked him. The one who laughs last laughs longest. We will see.

Perhaps he would have bought MF targets in the Jan window...No one can really know. What became pretty obvious was that Allardyce simply did not have the confidence of Ashley/Mort. For a man who built his career on results football, the results started indifferently and were headed south at an alarming rate. He may have had targets but he didn't have the backing to buy them, and he can only blame himself for that. He tried to impose a tactical system with players it clearly didn't work with. Unless he was going to buy 11 new players it was irrelevant. A couple of midfielders would not have changed the fact our entire strikeforce was utterly unsuited to Allardyce's tactics. It would not have changed the fact that our midfielders were by ability, fitness and temperament all unsuitable to his defensive flooding tactics. All we can know is that Allardyce simply failed to come to grips with the players he had to use. So all we were left with was Bolton. The prospect, that given time, and money, he may well turn us into another Bolton, with perhaps slightly better results. No-one here wants to become Bolton. We certainely don't want to risk being relegated trying. So he got booted, and rightly so. At the time I thought 'may as well give him til summer' but in retrospect it was the right thing to do. Allardyce never showed he could adapt tactics, or change in any way to suit far higher expectations and far different playing staff. In short, we do know. We know he wasn't good enough. How would they know shit from shat?