Nobody

Keeper should've probably had the first one, the second was class. How on earth was Rangers' goal ruled out though?

Kaz on the right, Jonas on the left. Or in the middle with Butt or Guthrie, depending on who's fit.

Winner

This game have been so unbelievably poor. Misplaced pass after misplaced pass, especially from West Ham, but Tottenham are doing their best to look shite as well.

True legend and it breaks my heart to see him like that. Wish he could live forever, he really deserves it.

Oh and the thread title is misleading, it's not Owen who waits, it's the club.

Fair quotes from Owen IMO. Can't see him staying though.

Do people still rather keep Kinnear than go for Avram Grant?

Ridiculous. That's easily the worst we have played this season, easily. A draw would have flattered us, but since we've had MON one thing which has been constant is that we never, ever give up. Also, Ashley Young has been poor all season. I really don't think many non Villans realise that. 4 goals and 5 assists in 16 games is poor?

Barton

Useless waste of space, Joe Kinnear, please fuck off.

Fuck off man. It's hardly knee-jerking this Kinnear band-waggon, most of us said the same after the City-game, and it's been proved every time we've been in the lead that he is fucking clueless. You don't put ten men in your penalty box from the 60th minute, there's no way you'll get off with that. You don't take off the only pace you've got in the side, you don't play half your team out of position and you fucking don't get yourself sent to the stands as soon as something goes tits up.

Fucking wanker. Useless fucking wanker. Twat. Cunt. He doesn't deserve to be anywhere near St James' Park. We've got 600 forum members on here who would do a better job than him. Fucking disgrace.

Kinnear you fucking useless wanker. Embarrassing "manager", he is fucking clueless.

Pretty much. Loved him a couple of seasons back, but he had a bad season last year and he's done fuck all so far this season.

I was the one who introduced them though Getting off topic here?

yeah ? but have to you been totally in love with a girl who doessn't know you exist and fucked off to spain and near got off with your best mate ? if you can't answer yes your view is invalid frankly! She obviously do know who I am, how else would she nearly have gotten off with my mate

Regarding Guthrie, it might be a lack of willingness to take responsibility while he's playing next to a more experienced player. Take Butt out of it and that would have to change. subjective call. i'm not so sure he's up to it. It worked well last season with Butt Geremi and Barton in midfield, don't see any reasons why it wouldn't work with Guthrie (better than Geremi), Butt (only slightly worse than Butt six months ago) and Jonas (better than Barton) all seasoned central midfielders 9even geremi had played there plenty) as opposed to guthrie and two more natural and lesser experienced wide players. Butt would still be there. I'd even put Jonas on the bench if we had to play three CMs for this formation to work, with Geremi, Butt and Guthrie in midfield. her being gone is really messing with your brain isn't it ? even in a 3 man midfield i'd have jonas in before guthrie and as i've mentioned the chance of owen and viduka lasting the 90 adequatly we have no need to push the 3 up fronty as of yet. Sorry, I haven't read all the replies, just thought that you missed me suggesting Jonas, Guthrie and Butt. and you missed me saying that due to fitness i wouldn't play all three up front yet ? we need a pic of the miss otherwise she may turn into a wormy style cause celebre owen reckons it takes him 5 or 6 games to get back after a month out yet viduka will be fit for 90mins after having a couple of games after being out since may ? Point taken, but it's not like Owen doesn't play for 5 or six games after coming back. You need to play to get match fit, so for as much as possible, we should play Viduka, Owen and Martins. Whether that will be for 30 minutes in six games or 90 minutes from Saturday, that's up to how fit Viduka is (which is hard for us to say, really) i disagree, they should be played back in. owen can mange an hour or so,then bring viduka on till he builds it up. by the time viduka is fit enough to start............well, you might have shagged her, i'll have mastered this keyboard and all will be well with the nufc world. None of them sounds plausible, tbh true sadly true Indeed

Regarding Guthrie, it might be a lack of willingness to take responsibility while he's playing next to a more experienced player. Take Butt out of it and that would have to change. subjective call. i'm not so sure he's up to it. It worked well last season with Butt Geremi and Barton in midfield, don't see any reasons why it wouldn't work with Guthrie (better than Geremi), Butt (only slightly worse than Butt six months ago) and Jonas (better than Barton) all seasoned central midfielders 9even geremi had played there plenty) as opposed to guthrie and two more natural and lesser experienced wide players. Butt would still be there. I'd even put Jonas on the bench if we had to play three CMs for this formation to work, with Geremi, Butt and Guthrie in midfield. her being gone is really messing with your brain isn't it ? even in a 3 man midfield i'd have jonas in before guthrie and as i've mentioned the chance of owen and viduka lasting the 90 adequatly we have no need to push the 3 up fronty as of yet. Sorry, I haven't read all the replies, just thought that you missed me suggesting Jonas, Guthrie and Butt. and you missed me saying that due to fitness i wouldn't play all three up front yet ? we need a pic of the miss otherwise she may turn into a wormy style cause celebre owen reckons it takes him 5 or 6 games to get back after a month out yet viduka will be fit for 90mins after having a couple of games after being out since may ? Point taken, but it's not like Owen doesn't play for 5 or six games after coming back. You need to play to get match fit, so for as much as possible, we should play Viduka, Owen and Martins. Whether that will be for 30 minutes in six games or 90 minutes from Saturday, that's up to how fit Viduka is (which is hard for us to say, really) i disagree, they should be played back in. owen can mange an hour or so,then bring viduka on till he builds it up. by the time viduka is fit enough to start............well, you might have shagged her, i'll have mastered this keyboard and all will be well with the nufc world. None of them sounds plausible, tbh

Regarding Guthrie, it might be a lack of willingness to take responsibility while he's playing next to a more experienced player. Take Butt out of it and that would have to change. subjective call. i'm not so sure he's up to it. It worked well last season with Butt Geremi and Barton in midfield, don't see any reasons why it wouldn't work with Guthrie (better than Geremi), Butt (only slightly worse than Butt six months ago) and Jonas (better than Barton) all seasoned central midfielders 9even geremi had played there plenty) as opposed to guthrie and two more natural and lesser experienced wide players. Butt would still be there. I'd even put Jonas on the bench if we had to play three CMs for this formation to work, with Geremi, Butt and Guthrie in midfield. her being gone is really messing with your brain isn't it ? even in a 3 man midfield i'd have jonas in before guthrie and as i've mentioned the chance of owen and viduka lasting the 90 adequatly we have no need to push the 3 up fronty as of yet. Sorry, I haven't read all the replies, just thought that you missed me suggesting Jonas, Guthrie and Butt. and you missed me saying that due to fitness i wouldn't play all three up front yet ? we need a pic of the miss otherwise she may turn into a wormy style cause celebre owen reckons it takes him 5 or 6 games to get back after a month out yet viduka will be fit for 90mins after having a couple of games after being out since may ? Point taken, but it's not like Owen doesn't play for 5 or six games after coming back. You need to play to get match fit, so for as much as possible, we should play Viduka, Owen and Martins. Whether that will be for 30 minutes in six games or 90 minutes from Saturday, that's up to how fit Viduka is (which is hard for us to say, really)

Regarding Guthrie, it might be a lack of willingness to take responsibility while he's playing next to a more experienced player. Take Butt out of it and that would have to change. subjective call. i'm not so sure he's up to it. It worked well last season with Butt Geremi and Barton in midfield, don't see any reasons why it wouldn't work with Guthrie (better than Geremi), Butt (only slightly worse than Butt six months ago) and Jonas (better than Barton) all seasoned central midfielders 9even geremi had played there plenty) as opposed to guthrie and two more natural and lesser experienced wide players. Butt would still be there. I'd even put Jonas on the bench if we had to play three CMs for this formation to work, with Geremi, Butt and Guthrie in midfield. her being gone is really messing with your brain isn't it ? even in a 3 man midfield i'd have jonas in before guthrie and as i've mentioned the chance of owen and viduka lasting the 90 adequatly we have no need to push the 3 up fronty as of yet. Sorry, I haven't read all the replies, just thought that you missed me suggesting Jonas, Guthrie and Butt. and you missed me saying that due to fitness i wouldn't play all three up front yet ? we need a pic of the miss otherwise she may turn into a wormy style cause celebre

Regarding Guthrie, it might be a lack of willingness to take responsibility while he's playing next to a more experienced player. Take Butt out of it and that would have to change. subjective call. i'm not so sure he's up to it. It worked well last season with Butt Geremi and Barton in midfield, don't see any reasons why it wouldn't work with Guthrie (better than Geremi), Butt (only slightly worse than Butt six months ago) and Jonas (better than Barton) all seasoned central midfielders 9even geremi had played there plenty) as opposed to guthrie and two more natural and lesser experienced wide players. Butt would still be there. I'd even put Jonas on the bench if we had to play three CMs for this formation to work, with Geremi, Butt and Guthrie in midfield. her being gone is really messing with your brain isn't it ? even in a 3 man midfield i'd have jonas in before guthrie and as i've mentioned the chance of owen and viduka lasting the 90 adequatly we have no need to push the 3 up fronty as of yet. Sorry, I haven't read all the replies, just thought that you missed me suggesting Jonas, Guthrie and Butt.

Regarding Guthrie, it might be a lack of willingness to take responsibility while he's playing next to a more experienced player. Take Butt out of it and that would have to change. subjective call. i'm not so sure he's up to it. It worked well last season with Butt Geremi and Barton in midfield, don't see any reasons why it wouldn't work with Guthrie (better than Geremi), Butt (only slightly worse than Butt six months ago) and Jonas (better than Barton) all seasoned central midfielders 9even geremi had played there plenty) as opposed to guthrie and two more natural and lesser experienced wide players. Butt would still be there. I'd even put Jonas on the bench if we had to play three CMs for this formation to work, with Geremi, Butt and Guthrie in midfield.

Regarding Guthrie, it might be a lack of willingness to take responsibility while he's playing next to a more experienced player. Take Butt out of it and that would have to change. subjective call. i'm not so sure he's up to it. It worked well last season with Butt Geremi and Barton in midfield, don't see any reasons why it wouldn't work with Guthrie (better than Geremi), Butt (only slightly worse than Butt six months ago) and Jonas (better than Barton)