Dr Venkman

I think we might tread water if we sign Erdinc and replace Enrique. Given that we were one kick away from 9th anyway, I don't see why that's not a fair, realistic expectation. strikes me as being fair that we aim for higher really, given the money we SHOULD have at our disposal to make the squad stronger

But neither to the people defending them, they just assume the worst because it's Ashley. ian, in your world are people ever held accountable for their actions or do you go on giving the benefit of the doubt until the end of time? people dont assume the worst because its ashley, they assume the club will do everything on the cheap because....the club are doing everything on the cheap. at what point do you notice this all tying in? Keegan, Hughton, Pardew, Carroll, nothing spent, Enrique.......... I know Ashley is a cunt etc etc, but every decision he makes isn't wrong by default. well now you're just stating the obvious and i'm not sure why

But neither to the people defending them, they just assume the worst because it's Ashley. ian, in your world are people ever held accountable for their actions or do you go on giving the benefit of the doubt until the end of time? people dont assume the worst because its ashley, they assume the club will do everything on the cheap because....the club are doing everything on the cheap. at what point do you notice this all tying in? Keegan, Hughton, Pardew, Carroll, nothing spent, Enrique..........

bit odd for them to release a statement over it, they didn't do that when Barton did similar I thought that too... with Twitter stuff my view is that they basically shouldn't respond at all. Barton did come out soon after and correct his twitter rant though. They might see this as a good chance to get Jose on the transfer list and bring the issue to a head. they're likely to see it as another opportunity to tell us about agent fees and debt imo

Spot on. respectfully disagree, i cant see him moaning about not being offerred more there at all. i can see him moaning about the clubs transfer policy and saying that the new contract offer is the same wages in order to highlight the fact that they lie, and have done again in this case. pardew's here because of his experience though you know

i HAVE to disagree with you on this. rather than them thinking we're the only non top 6 club who sells if a big offer comes in, do you think it's possible that they can see the people running the club for what they are? lying cheapskates. we do absolutely everything on the cheap now and the list of excuses including bore holes and tarmac is just a farce. they'll continue to do everything on the cheap until the day ashley leaves. this summer was the chance for the change in emphasis, it's not going to happen. this financial stuff will not go away, they'll just spin it and spin it and spin it. interesting that enrique mentions it not being the fault of carroll or nolan that they left.

this is getting embarrassing now

to clarify, i'm not saying it's definitely gonna happen. i was responding to you saying 'we'll still see him for 30 odd games'. you cant say that with any degree of certainty for any player, and especially not one so prone to inviting mis-timed tackles. if he's fully fit i'd never ever rest him in case someone hurts him, that's cutting off your nose to spite your dial. but the possibility of it happening again is pretty high if you ask me, he's playing in a more physical league now, we didnt even get a free kick for de jong's 'tackle' for fucks sake.

that's assuming he doesnt get halfed again during those 30 games, which i'm fully expecting. absolute pain in the arse this, if there was one player we needed to have a full pre-season it was him

if incoming deals can be judged in hindsight then why cant outgoing deals?

fucking hell man

nowhere near enough, we need to find the money to pay all of his wages upfront as well

has he gone then? or going to holland?

and villainy

he's already here?

i'm sure they'll take his already premier league standard diving to the new heights of champions league class

i'm pretty offended by the accusation that he was 'attacked' in a bar to be honest, what about all the shite he's 'attacked' us with? like condemning the abuse that carroll got. just because it was printed in a programme and wasnt said face to face it doesnt make it any better. man walks into bar full of people who rightly hate him and gets called a cunt, and that's news?

how did he look last night then?

When it's sung about Shola it's usually done in good knowledge that your word isn't going to be tested. i was thinking that as i typed it actually! that song has been sung for so long about comedy players that aren't gonna score that it's no wonder people actually did it when it happened. i remember it being sung at a hartlepool friendly about someone? although they were just a number at the time because they were on trial, maybe bassong or ranger? 52 i think they were. either way it was a safe bet then as well.

he went to one of the bars for a pint before the match?

to be fair if you gonna go around singing 'if (insert player name here) scores, we're on the pitch' . if they actually score you've gotta follow through on your promise really

Been there, done that. Conclusion is always Ashley is a twat. Indeed, but whats the point of all the negativity. Do not listen to what the club/Pardew say, let the action speak, and judge when its over. If its shit, go bananas on Fatty it's not negativity, it's a natural (for some) response to what's gone on previously in relation to what we're likely to see in the future unless something changes (mike's state of mind with regard to club finances) he doesnt care how bananas we go

well anyway you spell it, yeah i'd agree

seriously? no wonder i was so confused

out of interest, what is? How good the players are? Mental suggestion I know. surely the business takes that into account?