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new owners willing to pump money in and a 50mill cheque from chelsea. liverpool owners have definitely said they want the club to run itself financially, hence the pa stunts in usa (lebron james) far east (players like rush going there to spread the word). torres money though fair enough.

and that's regardless of whether he plays, I suppose? i dont get it

enrique already nailed on motm today

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If I had to guess it'll be a one-year extension, slightly more brass. It's not like anyone is going to poach him, nor is his contract close to being up. you honestly dont think any other teams in the league would want a midfielder thats just scored 12 goals this season?

for all its an astonishing achievement the gulf in class between the big 2 teams and everyone else sours it slightly imo, i'd absolutely love to see him playing over here but its never gonna happen

carroll money's going on nolan and barton's new contracts and a new greggs next to shearers

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good news, he's been brilliant this year imo. fair enough he goes missing sometimes but 12 goals is a great return and i do think he has a good influence on the team

Journal - he's gone back to villa, we might still sign him but it wouldnt be on loan and the fee is expected to be about 4m

my sentiments exactly, i've never wanted man u to win a single game EVER but after watching that tonight i really want them to win. it was absolutely disgraceful from start to finish. the two greatest teams in the world cup winning nation not concerned at all about playing football.

i want to see real beat man u in the final. i just think it'll be more fun and they wont have the 'well, it's barcelona!' excuse

i would, thats a place in the squad taken that we could give to someone who might be fit enough to start a match

oh dear, send him back please

Yes, but he can easily afford not to worry about the extra cost of renting. dont forget that he already wanted out when he was house hunting in the north east, renting makes it much easier for him to move to liverpool at short notice

i really wouldnt be that surprised (ashley doom mongering aside) it would certainly make sense for them to try, with both players having only a year left and the fact they linked up with carroll well.

True but the example of selling the whole team is a stupid pointless exaggeration i'm going to get really upset if you don't stop calling me stupid and idiotic. a bastion of debate shouldn't have to resort to that language. fwiw when i was talking about paying attention, i was mostly referring to the part where we got relegated, remember that?

The Fat Cockney b****** will happily turn United into Liverpool's feeder club if the money is right. The same as 95% of clubs. I don't like Ashley or Lambyarse but not many clubs would have turned down that sort of money (8th most expensive player in history) for a young lad with half a seasons experience in the premiership. I could understand the derision directed at the board if we sold the lad for £10m just to make a quick buck but all players at all clubs (apart from maybe Chelsea and City) have a price. Especially if the player has indicated he wants to leave. Look at the ludicrous things Man City and Man Utd had to do to keep hold of their star players, we as with most clubs aren't in a position to do that. We tried it before and despite it working at first we started going backwards and the over spending wasn't helping buck the trend. If Liverpool came in with the reported £15m bid for our left back in the last year of his contract and not looking to extend then I couldn't really blame the board for accepting it. Good Post, totally agree with what your saying. Good thing Ashley's ass is so big so you can both simultaneously fit your cocks up it, like. This is so typical, personal attacks are used instead of having a logical debate whenever someone post something not along the lines that Ashley is the devil incarnate. Alterantively you get one liners cliche on bank balance that does not engage the points made. Cajun makes a good point (one that I've been making as well). The club's error is if they don't replace Carrol with a good striker of similiar or higher standards (that might be difficult for some though, coz they think that Carroll is one of the best strikers in the world! ) On the other hand, although Cajun has a point when he said that we would have paid over the odds had we got Carrol's replacement on the last day of the Jan transfer, I am still p*ssed off that we did not attempt to get Sturridge given the leverage that we had over Chelsea (though I suspect the deal with Bolton might have been done earlier). I will wait to see what happens in the summer and am cautiously optimistic that we will get a good number 9 and hopefully one more striker. The last few games hopefully are driving home the point that our current strikers are an awful bunch. and what if the summer's been and gone and the transfer activity hasnt been good enough? we've spent about 10 million on a two young prospects, signed a couple of free transfers and lost enrique, who we've replaced with kadar (and put a last minute 'bid' in for adam johnson). you'll be on here saying that we should wait and see what happens in january and that those of us saying we've seen it all before and ashley is true to form are just impatient and launching personal attacks. depends on your point of view, personally if someone's taking the p*ss i've usually noticed after 5 years If having had the whole summer to plan the transfer window and we end up losing and not replacing Enrique, and not getting quality striker(s) to replace Carroll, then why would I say let's see what happens in January? You're completly missing the point, those who are saying let's see what happens in the summer are not saying that because they just want to procrastinate strengthening team, the fact is most decent and reasonable transfers are done in the summer, whereas the Jan transfer window are stop gap buys which comes with over inflated prices. That's why our transfers in the summer will be more indicative of Ashley's vision for the club and people are right to say that we should wait till then before passing a judgement. You can of course disagree but debate the points instead of making idiotic statements like bumming Ashley or spouting cliche irrelevant points about bank balance. cliche irrelevant points about bank balance, don't be so sensitive. i fully reserve the right to make sarcastic remarks about anything i want, i'm insulted by your refusal to write in paragraphs but i'm not gonna pick you up on it because i don't agree with you on some things. fwiw, people who are saying lets wait and see what happens in the summer either haven't been paying attention for the last 5 years or are expecting quite a radical transformation in ashley imo Sensitive? I'm only trying to teach you ethics of debating i.e. you engage the points instead of replying with irrelevant stuff. Sorry that's proving to be too difficult for you. No point debating in a civil manner with you. Your post is absolute rubbish. Pay attention on what? Our transfers under Ashley bar the last Jan transfer window has been decent. Colocini, Tiote, HBA...etc are all excellent players. Last Jan was bad but it was an exception to the rule

I've been undercover in Boro bars a few times when we've been at the Riverside. As long as you dont wear colours and keep your head down, it's no bother. i go to uni in boro every day and i carried an nufc bag on my back for the first year of it, no-one batted an eye lid. i see nufc tops there pretty much every day.

Huge difference between showing your support for your team 3pm to 5pm at St James' Park every other Saturday and showing your support for your team on a Wednesday afternoon around Sainsbury's. what's the huge difference? what are you doing posting on an nufc forum when its not a match day?

it is a good post, but it glosses over the issue which strikes at the absolute heart of what the club is about now. that is, that we replaced a very well performing manager who was popular with players and fans, with a man who had very little reason to be hired other than he didn't deserve the position and therefore was more likely to agree to demands placed upon him on transfer policy. and my oh my, weren't we all shocked when carroll went in january. yes the money was massive, yes its a great deal if you put the money back into the team PLUS the money that should have been due to be invested anyway. but the chain of events is as plain as day imo, would anyone be surprised if the big debate in the winter is whether we were right to accept a massive bid for tiote on deadline day? Surely you don't really think Hughton was sacked because he could prevent Ashley pulling off deals like the Carroll one? prevent, no. be opposed to, or try and make himself an obstacle against, yes. we all want an easy life. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Hughton himself say, in an interview, that the Carroll deal was a good piece of business? absolutely. what does he care?

the idea that there should be any shame in showing support for your team, whoever it is, is laughable. you're just joining in.

it is a good post, but it glosses over the issue which strikes at the absolute heart of what the club is about now. that is, that we replaced a very well performing manager who was popular with players and fans, with a man who had very little reason to be hired other than he didn't deserve the position and therefore was more likely to agree to demands placed upon him on transfer policy. and my oh my, weren't we all shocked when carroll went in january. yes the money was massive, yes its a great deal if you put the money back into the team PLUS the money that should have been due to be invested anyway. but the chain of events is as plain as day imo, would anyone be surprised if the big debate in the winter is whether we were right to accept a massive bid for tiote on deadline day? Surely you don't really think Hughton was sacked because he could prevent Ashley pulling off deals like the Carroll one? prevent, no. be opposed to, or try and make himself an obstacle against, yes. we all want an easy life.

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it is a good post, but it glosses over the issue which strikes at the absolute heart of what the club is about now. that is, that we replaced a very well performing manager who was popular with players and fans, with a man who had very little reason to be hired other than he didn't deserve the position and therefore was more likely to agree to demands placed upon him on transfer policy. and my oh my, weren't we all shocked when carroll went in january. yes the money was massive, yes its a great deal if you put the money back into the team PLUS the money that should have been due to be invested anyway. but the chain of events is as plain as day imo, would anyone be surprised if the big debate in the winter is whether we were right to accept a massive bid for tiote on deadline day? I would understand it if we received a ridiculous bid (£30m+) for Tiote a few hours before deadline and we took the money without being able to find a replacement. I wouldn't like it though, but it's too good to turn down from a business point of view, and we can't buy a replacement just in case someone makes a last minute mega bid for our players. if we want to progress, at some point we have to say no. our most important players shouldnt be for sale at any price (yes i know even man u had to sell ronaldo, nani was already at the club though, its different). what if we were offerred 300 million for our entire first team squad? that would be good business, right? we could just play the kids, get relegated and then we'd have loads of money to buy a new team to push for promotion