Andy

His work in the build-up to the second goal was superb. Great performance yesterday.

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I can't see him getting much joy up front so it will have to be midfield for me. Then it's just a case of who wins the battle between him and Lee Twattermole. Tiote will win the battle between Nolan and Cattermole.

I heard that and thought he was talking about us too, to be fair. I nearly hoyed my jar at the screen because it couldn't be more wrong He was talking about us. The other commentator was referring to Steve Bruce being at the game to watch Newcastle even though most of the players on the pitch wouldn't be playing on Sunday, and then he chipped in with, "it doesn't matter, they always play the same way".

I normally work six or seven days a week so it's typically hard for me to get to games. Maybe 4 or 5 a season either home or away.

Eh? Quite the opposite, as far as I was concerned. He stayed on his feet when others would have fallen like a dying swan and earned a penalty. He did in that one instance, but he lost his balance quite a few times when he was changing direction.

Ranger was OK... He's a handful if nothing else. I'd like to see him be more direct on the ball though - he has a bit of pace, but a lot of the time he'll run so far with it then he'll either turn around and pass the ball backwards/sideways or he'll trip over himself. Looks short on confidence and a loan move to a lower division would probably do him a lot of good.

Agree with Dave and Tooj. As has been stated already, he's a marginally better right-back than Ryan Taylor, and he also had a half decent game tonight in the middle. Not sure why people are criticising him after it.

Did that actually happen? No. Right. What am I missing here? Well... Nothing. Because it didn't happen.

Did that actually happen? No.

Most of the Arsenal kids are better than our first team. It'd not have ended 0-4 if say, Colo, Enrique, Jonas, Carroll, Tiote and Barton had started. I dare say we'd probably have won it against the players they started with if we'd gone for it. A similar line up beat Chelsea but I bet people would have been saying exactly the same if we lost that one. I don't mind having priorities, it was a risk throwing on Carroll, Barton and Jonas but maybe he cared a little more than he made out. I still would have gone for that line up (or similar), as defeatist as it is to some people the league is priority 1, 2 and 3 for me. The main issue was right back, why play our shittest player up against their best player (in the starting eleven)? If we'd have a player playing there with some sense of tactical nous and timing we could have seen a different match. Granted, hindsights 20/20, but regardless on if I'd agree with most of the players in the starting eleven I was fuming by the sight of Perch's name in it. Fuck Perch. It's the first player who plays for us that I genuinely have started to literally despise. He's just so fucking shit. Er, Perch didn't play at right back. At any point. Left back, obviously. Perch played in the centre. Kadar was left back. Not according to the team sheet they showed on my telly. He was shit regardless. It angers me. Did you even watch it?

Most of the Arsenal kids are better than our first team. It'd not have ended 0-4 if say, Colo, Enrique, Jonas, Carroll, Tiote and Barton had started. I dare say we'd probably have won it against the players they started with if we'd gone for it. A similar line up beat Chelsea but I bet people would have been saying exactly the same if we lost that one. I don't mind having priorities, it was a risk throwing on Carroll, Barton and Jonas but maybe he cared a little more than he made out. I still would have gone for that line up (or similar), as defeatist as it is to some people the league is priority 1, 2 and 3 for me. The main issue was right back, why play our shittest player up against their best player (in the starting eleven)? If we'd have a player playing there with some sense of tactical nous and timing we could have seen a different match. Granted, hindsights 20/20, but regardless on if I'd agree with most of the players in the starting eleven I was fuming by the sight of Perch's name in it. Fuck Perch. It's the first player who plays for us that I genuinely have started to literally despise. He's just so fucking shit. Er, Perch didn't play at right back. At any point. Left back, obviously. Perch played in the centre. Kadar was left back.

Most of the Arsenal kids are better than our first team. It'd not have ended 0-4 if say, Colo, Enrique, Jonas, Carroll, Tiote and Barton had started. I dare say we'd probably have won it against the players they started with if we'd gone for it. A similar line up beat Chelsea but I bet people would have been saying exactly the same if we lost that one. I don't mind having priorities, it was a risk throwing on Carroll, Barton and Jonas but maybe he cared a little more than he made out. I still would have gone for that line up (or similar), as defeatist as it is to some people the league is priority 1, 2 and 3 for me. The main issue was right back, why play our shittest player up against their best player (in the starting eleven)? If we'd have a player playing there with some sense of tactical nous and timing we could have seen a different match. Granted, hindsights 20/20, but regardless on if I'd agree with most of the players in the starting eleven I was fuming by the sight of Perch's name in it. Fuck Perch. It's the first player who plays for us that I genuinely have started to literally despise. He's just so fucking shit. Er, Perch didn't play at right back. At any point. Had a decent enough game, as well, considering the score.

This. For both sides again. I'm not normally one to whinge about refereeing, but I thought he was a lot worse for us there. One poor decision that went against Arsenal - Perch's handball - whereas I can think of a few that went in their favour.

Think KI and Madras are right here like. Allardyce constantly told us that Enrique needed easing in - there are probably quotes in the early pages of this thread.

Shoo-in.

Better player when he was Tiote alongside him to do his running.

Trés kind you owe etre a girl you The only part of that sentence I understood the context of was the French.

Don't know how good he's going to be post-recovery, but Ben Arfa with a broken leg on crutches is probably still better than most of our players tbh.

I think Real would be mad to include him in a deal. Exactly. It's Real Madrid. They DO madness.

I think Higuain's more likely to be involved in a potential deal than Benzema.

Because its generally unrealistic. He should have some f***ing common sense and realise that Ya Ya Toure is on over the top wages because they are backed by lunatic arabs. No f***ing player is worth 200k plus a weel. No one. Very few clubs can pay the overinflated prices for players, no matter how good they are. I bet Man U offered him a fair wedge. THis is exactly whats wrong with football, its all about earnings amongst the players rather then the sport itself. I can just picture the England camp now after losng to Germany, all sittign about smoking cigars bemoaning their wages. f*** off you greedy c***s, you have a repsosibility towards the game yourselves. Rooney has won every trophy there is to win in the domestic game apart from the League Cup, which he's probably not arsed about anyway. A move to Man City will probably guarantee him more trophies than he's likely to win at Man Utd over the next 7-8 years, as well as a shitload of cash. Add to that the prospect of playing in front of proper football fans instead of plastic cockney wankers and it seems like a no-brainer to me. Man City... Proper fans? They've always had decent fans rbf I don't even think they sold out against Juventus a few weeks back in a european game we wouldnt sell out a group stage waffa game either. If our ground's capacity was 35,000 and we had a team on the up like Manchester City's, we'd easily sell-out against Juventus. but there stadium is 47k? Was meant to say 45,000. Fact is, we'd easily sell out, as we have done in the past.

Because its generally unrealistic. He should have some f***ing common sense and realise that Ya Ya Toure is on over the top wages because they are backed by lunatic arabs. No f***ing player is worth 200k plus a weel. No one. Very few clubs can pay the overinflated prices for players, no matter how good they are. I bet Man U offered him a fair wedge. THis is exactly whats wrong with football, its all about earnings amongst the players rather then the sport itself. I can just picture the England camp now after losng to Germany, all sittign about smoking cigars bemoaning their wages. f*** off you greedy c***s, you have a repsosibility towards the game yourselves. Rooney has won every trophy there is to win in the domestic game apart from the League Cup, which he's probably not arsed about anyway. A move to Man City will probably guarantee him more trophies than he's likely to win at Man Utd over the next 7-8 years, as well as a shitload of cash. Add to that the prospect of playing in front of proper football fans instead of plastic cockney wankers and it seems like a no-brainer to me. Man City... Proper fans? They've always had decent fans rbf I don't even think they sold out against Juventus a few weeks back in a european game we wouldnt sell out a group stage waffa game either. If our ground's capacity was 35,000 and we had a team on the up like Manchester City's, we'd easily sell-out against Juventus.

Samuel and Woodgate could have been an awesome partnership in different circumstances.