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Didn't say much apart from the squad needs to work hard for next season and that we are trying to get where Everton are. Didn't say anything really about the meeting... So we're moving to Goodison?

Aye, it's a sign alright. Sounds like you're using too high a temperature cycle for the fabric. And you should probably wash that tshirt inside out in future to avoid any further abrasion to the "Welcome Home Kev" part.

Because you're a big necrophiliac Queen?

I love fishing in this here river.

Where's the "We'll not be making any signings until Dennis Wise has got a proper grip on the manager's position" option?

I know it seems a bit odd, but it will all start to make sense by 9.30am tomorrow morning. Mainly because I suspect he doesn't want players breaking the news that he's leaving the club. He'd like to do that himself at the press conference.

It's a conspiracy!

Jerome? Lita? McFadden?

Should be fun on the local roads then...

See as I posted above. Try and name some wingers now who are better on their flanks than Ginola and Gillespie were then? How many strikers are better than Sir Les? You could say possibly Torres, but Drogbar and Yaba Daba Doo and Berbatovs certainly aren't if you ask me. Same with Rob Lee, Cesc, Gerrard etc but there aren't that many. Yeah, it's a tough one - because I'm also wary of perhaps glorifying the past a bit too much when I hark back to the "good old days" and also equally mindful that my memories of how good/bad players were then will be a tad dusty...and my opinions of current players may be in turn quite jaded... Wingers: I mean, what about Cristiano Ronaldo? Or possibly Aaron Lennon or SWP (especially if he got more regular run outs)? Midfielders: Yeap, Gerrard for sure... This is actually making my head hurt quite a bit.

Good quesion Tooj, I've been pondering much the same sort of thing over recent weeks, well, over much of the past couple of seasons anyway...mainly because I suppose I always wondered whether what we'd lost was simply just the Keegan-effect, bringing back a bit of flair etc. Anyway, I never expected to see him back at SJP, but I think (or is it just fear?) that the Premiership is an entirely different beast now to what it was even the last time he was managing in it at Man City, but certainly it's become both more and less competitive, by virtue of becoming a fractured, three or four tier league. The squad Keegan assembled for that season 95/96 lit up the Premiership in a way that the current squad obviously couldn't even dream of, and yet even with that said...I think that self same squad would probably struggle to get much higher than 6th in the current situation. Hard to say, really...

Less of the tart please. Look up, I just added a LOL smiley for you, pruneface.

The best advice I could ever give you is this, if GM says something, assume the opposite, obviously if he's agreeing with me than you're on fairly safe ground. Love is a many splendoured thing. You miserable old tart.

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Same for you then, I'm all ears, how did they get the information? Im with GM with this one so you're better off listening to him - he seems to make more sense then i do! Fatal error ever aligning yourself with me. But I agree with your second point.

A lot of people around our country support Man Utd and the like. Bit like up in Scotland where kids in the Highlands are all Celtic or Rangers. Or Chelsea or Man U.

Excellent point as well. So then, who can tell us the truth? Everyone posting in this thread is clearly interested in knowing what was really said at today's meeting and what will come from it all in the weeks and months ahead. But if we can't believe the press, we can't believe the ITKs and we can't even believe the club...then...erm... ...I guess we just have to make it up ourselves then?

OK, go for it, how did the Sun get the information? Possibly someone actually at the meeting is a renowned gobshite (allegedly). Need I say more?

Nah, I just meant it is "plausible" i.e. believable. But just because you think something's believable doesn't always follow that you do actually believe. Sorry, politician's answer, I know, but hopefully you'll understand now where I was coming from, i.e. it reads like there could be elements of the truth in there, even if it is more than likely speculative in the main. Ah, fuck it, my brain's too tired now.

Ditto. Funny how the Sun and the Daily Heil report totally different things too, so one of their "sources" is lying. Well he would be lying if he existed. So if the papers never tell the truth about NUFC, who can be trusted? Is it just ITKs on this forum? Because if it is, I fail to see the difference between them and the tabloid hacks?

I'll stick with my fishing theory, thanks. It's just not healthy being so cynical about things though, especially not without good cause.

The irony. Of course people on here don't know either way and probably never will, but it's just amazing how the Sun has a full article about what the meeting entailed when there were only the six prominent figures present at the meeting. Who else do those people have to answer to? Who else do they have to tell what went on? I understand bits and pieces will get out to various people, but to know the exact content of the meeting literally hours after it occured seems a bit far-fetched to me. Especially when half of those (perhaps more) present were immediately back up here together for the Bobby Robson thing as well. I think it's fair to say that usually when a paper uses "an insider" or "a source" they have license to write whatever they like because it can't be proven that it was never said. It's one of the oldest tricks in the book. The papers know that it's been left on a knife-edge and the club has given them absolutely fuck all today in terms of telling them what went on, so they have to follow it up with speculation that the regular fan can buy into. The people who write the stories aren't idiots, by and large, these are educated blokes who are good at their jobs and who sell papers with their stories. That's why they write for the nationals. Obviously not every story they print is false, but I'd wager a lot of money that the vast, vast majority of them are based on no more than hearsay and half-truths. They HAVE to write stories, that's the bottom line, these writers will have been told by their editors that we're once again the hot topic this week, we'll sell the papers, so they HAVE to come up with a whole article to fill the back pages. Alan Oliver has admitted to as much himself on the icnewcastle website, in a video, whether there is news or not, they have to fill the column inches to sell the paper. What sells papers better than massive shock headlines and drama. They can't just fucking say "well, Mort said it all went well", can they? Who's going to buy that? The broadsheets have used those quotes and then speculated around them, the Sun has claimed to know (as always) that they know exactly what went on in the meeting. Howay man. It's obviously not all black or white, no pun intended (on two counts), but people should be seeing through this stuff a bit more by now. We love the drama though. Sorry but I'm missing this "irony" thing totally...what irony?

Fishing? Not much. I was merely saying that I do think the scenario painted out by the Sun and other journos about today's meeting is as likely to be truthful as it is fabricated. We have no way of knowing what happened either way - and from a club owner's perspective KK caused some considerable embarrassment for MA with some of his recent comments. Can't take his results away of the feel-good factor he's brought back, granted...but I think it's fair enough that MA would want to make sure KK's mouth and head are both in check as the transfer season approaches. So, not fishing. Just reflecting my own views, openly, genuinely, without prejudice.

Surely you can't be referring to me there? Anyone who doesn't just laugh at it tbh. It's horseshit. They make it up. I find this incredibly difficult to believe, Wullie. They "make it up"? Huh? You mean that journalists get the wrong end of the stick and actually misreport (whether it be by deliberate malpractice or by unfortunate misunderstanding) the truth of a story? That's a staggering allegation. I mean, where's your evidence?

Surely you can't be referring to me there?