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We really need to make a clean break and make sure that we rid ourselves of any players who are here purely for financial reasons and who are not here because they are excited about playing for the club. If there is one thing I agreed with Roeder about, it was his desire to recruit players who would see Newcastle as a step up. When all is said and done we have to become a club that can identify and nurture emerging talent before the talent moves onto a club with a big status. Only then will we begin to enjoy good players who play with desire. If we continue to poach 'good' players who haven't quite panned out from big clubs then we will continue to see the likes of Owen, Duff and Butt (initially of course) let us down. It is no surprise that our best player this season, James Milner, is a young player for whom Newcastle is a step up. The previous season N'Zogbia was very much the same. This is the reason why we should be targetting the likes of Nolan, Sidwell, Bent, Nugent, Ben Haim, Distin etc because they clearly have talent but as of yet have not played at clubs the size of Newcastle. Along the same line of thought we should steer well clear of the likes of Wright-Philips and Wes Brown who would probably only let us down as they would not necessary have the hunger we need having come from big clubs where they are no longer needed. We are about to start over with a promising manager who has never had an opportunity with a club of our resources and now we have to make sure we go into the new season with players who have never had the chance to play for a club with of our size and resources too. Let Owen and his likes go in my opinion ... as long as we do our job scouting wise we could end up with a team of plyers who are hungry and motivated to play for us and this would be better for the team on the whole and would mean better results. Nexts eason cannot be about keeping Owen happy.

Look ... Michael Owen is a great footballer, but I don't think it is that big a deal if we let him leave, as long as we get in some really good players in return. If we let Owen go and brought in Darren Bent for example I really wouldn't be losing any sleep over little Micky. It might be for the best if we just made a clean break and ensured that by the time next season comes around that the only players who will be left at the club are players who have a real desire to be here and who are excited about playing for Newcastle. Besides ... considering we are a lower half club I'm not sure it is such a good idea forking out £110,000 a week to just one player. We need to start from the bottom and build ourselves back up.

Aye ... a muppet on crack!

Are you actually being serious here? We haven't had a manager that has achieved anything close to what Houllier did at Liverpool ion about 50 years!!!

He didnt do much with Liverpool who had better players and resources than weve got and hes already started to dismantle Lyon. I'd rather have Big Sam. DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELUSIONAL!!! Can I have some of what you're on ... on second thoughts keep it to yourself.

Wow ... This changes everything! Houllier would be more widely accepted and respected, and his contacts are second to none. He also knows what the premiership is all about and has always wanted to come back. This is all very interestng and it is going to be a difficult decision for Freddy. Didn't Roeder also work closely with Houllier while he was at liverpool? Glenn might be back here too, but in a role more suitable for him, as a coach or scout.

Wow ... Although if Owen leaves and we sign Darren Bent to play alongside Martins, I think I would get over it.

He hasn't even been appointed yet! Something different to talk about though. Nolan would be a nice move ahead of Sidwell as Nolan is definitely more of a goalscorer which is what we need from midfield.

I could definitely see Allardyce going for Distin rather than Campbell though. Hmmm ... Distin and Ben Haim would be a very capable centre back pairing, and they would both be ona free!!! Here's hoping!

I can't believe Roeder was actually considering Anton ferdinand ... that is really dissapointing. If this Independent article is accurate it appears that Allardyce might have been making plans for the Newcastle post a while ago! The Dyer story as well as the campbell story were both very strong but were both dismissed by Roeder. Looks like Allardyce might have had other ideas. If this is indeed the case then it is good to know that he has at least started making plans for the team already.

According to the Independent ... Allardyce's first act will be to show Dyer the door By Jason Burt Published: 09 May 2007 Kieron Dyer is likely to be one of the big-name casualties at Newcastle United as soon as Sam Allardyce is installed as manager. There will be no shortage of takers for the 28-year-old England international although his wages, thought to be £80,000-a-week, will be a stumbling block for interested clubs such as Tottenham Hotspur. Allardyce, who is due to take over at St James' Park after Sunday's final Premiership game of the season against Watford, is unconvinced as to whether Dyer is able to consistently shake off the injury problems that have dogged his career. At the same time Allardyce is understood to be planning a major upheaval of the Newcastle squad and has been promised funds by the chairman Freddy Shepherd. Allardyce is likely to return to his former club Bolton Wanderers with a bid for captain Kevin Nolan and the defender Talal Ben Haim. Nolan is regarded as exactly the kind of goal-scoring midfielder that Newcastle lack although he will not come cheaply as the 24-year-old only signed a new contract at the Reebok earlier this year. Ben Haim's current deal expires at the end of the season and he is certain to leave Bolton. The Israeli had been expected to join Chelsea in the January transfer window and although he has made clear that he wants Champions League football it is likely that Allardyce, with the money available at Newcastle, will make a tempting offer. Allardyce is likely to reshape the whole of the Newcastle defence with the promising Steven Taylor set to be the only survivor. A move for West Ham United's Anton Ferdinand, planned under Allardyce's predecessor Glenn Roeder and believed to have reached an advance stage, will be shelved as the new manager targets greater experience. That would open the way for a possible bid for Portsmouth's Sol Campbell who, according to sources at Newcastle, is keen to move to Tyneside for personal reasons just 12 months after he left Arsenal for the south-coast. The changes could see Titus Bramble, who is out of contract after this season, move the other way while there must also be a question mark over the futures of Stephen Carr and Celestine Babayaro. Oguchi Onyewu has only been signed on loan until this weekend and a permanent deal may not be agreed. If Dyer leaves his likely destination would be Spurs - where he would link up again with Jermaine Jenas and could be used in the problem area of left midfield - although other clubs, such as West Ham United if they avoid relegation, may also be interested. Newcastle would hope to re-coup most of the £6m fee they paid for Dyer eight years ago but in order for a deal to be done they may have to revise down their valuation. Newcastle are not the only club who have cooled their interest in Anton Ferdinand who has had a torrid season at Upton Park and is expected to leave this summer. Spurs, who bid £4m for the defender, in January are now understood to be in negotiations to sign the promising Auxerre central defender Younes Kaboul. The French Under-21 captain would cost around £7.5m. The Carlisle manager Neil McDonald, a former colleague of Allardyce, hinted he would be interested in joining him. "I speak to Sam on a regular basis for advice because I got on very well with him during my time working under him at Bolton as first-team coach," McDonald said. "I class him as my mentor and if he gets the Newcastle job then that would be fantastic. But it's up to him to decide who he wants to get in."

Or will he think he can get the best out of them like he did with his own headcases at Bolton like Diouf. I hope he just gets rd of all the players who have been a let down to us this season, particularly Carr and Babayaro and he doesn't keep them around. I will be watching these decisions very closely.

Third strike and out for Roeder Newcastle 0 Blackburn 2 By COLIN YOUNG - More by this author » Last updated at 00:02am on 7th May 2007 Comments (1) To face one protest from his own fans was unfortunate: two looked like more than carelessness: the third which engulfed St James’ Park on Saturday finally cost Glenn Roeder his job. Three times this season, Newcastle chairman Freddy Shepherd has had to listen to the club’s supporters call for his head, and his patience finally snapped as he watched his team endure their fifth home defeat of a miserable campaign against a side who, unlike Newcastle, are now serious UEFA Cup contenders. Scroll down to read more: Looking grim: Roeder presides over a dire final match More.... Old mates turned inside out by Darius Moyes needs to buy into Europe Warnock still a believer as Villa pile on pressure The drop can ruin lives, says Unsworth Tevez taking it to the wire Ronaldo class tells as United win ugly Sanchez makes his case Shepherd wanted to stay loyal to Roeder. Sick of his reputation as a hirer and firer, the chairman wanted stability at a club still reeling from Alan Shearer’s retirement and which has never really recovered from Sir Bobby Robson’s harsh dismissal. Robson has now become a regular at St James’ and he was alongside Shepherd to watch this Newcastle debacle Although fit-again Michael Owen came close to scoring his first home goal for 20 months, only to be denied by Christopher Samba’s incredible headed clearance, Newcastle were totally outplayed by a well-organised Blackburn side who could yet squeeze into the top seven. Before the game, Roeder and Shepherd had pencilled in a meeting at which the manager hoped to see his transfer targets and budget on the agenda. Yesterday morning, Shepherd brought that meeting forward and made the agenda his manager’s future. Roeder left with his P45. The previous home defeats which woke Newcastle fans from their apathy came against Sheffield United and Manchester City. During both games, supporters turned on Shepherd and protested long and hard outside the main entrance. Saturday was different. The ‘Taxi for Roeder’ chants were the first signs of unhappiness with a man who guided the club to Europe but has never looked likely to repeat the feat. The lap of shame after facing Blackburn was an embarrassment, but Roeder insisted the players were right to show their appreciation to the few who stayed. The fans didn’t know whether to boo or applaud, so did both. It must have made perplexing viewing for Robson who once paraded his team in front of an even smaller audience. His crime was finishing fifth, back in the days when Champions League qualification was a realistic ambition. The presence of Albert Luque was laughable, although he has become very rich for doing very little thanks to the club. Like Celestine Babayaro, Titus Bramble’s excuse was an injury, although Emre was out there with a foot brace. Totally unacceptable was the reaction of Stephen Carr, hardly a Toon Army darling, who raced down the tunnel after he had been torn to pieces by David Bentley. To Shepherd and the fans, it was clear evidence Roeder had lost elements of his dressing room. Carr shouted expletives at his manager and thundered off to ‘get some ice’ for an injury which was a surprise to the medical staff. "I suppose he could have walked around with an ice pack on his thigh or hamstring or whatever it is," said Roeder. "I’m not going to criticise him more than that. The majoritycameout. Theywon’t have enjoyed it but you’ve got to be strong in life. It’s easy to take the applause when you’re winning." Bramble and Carr were just waving for offside when Benni McCarthy converted the excellent Stephen Warnock’s cross to put Blackburn in front. It was a borderline decision but they surely waved farewell to St James’ in the process. Carr was guilty again when Bentley eased past him to cross for Jason Roberts to nod a second. Scroll down to read more: Had he survived, Roeder intended to rebuild the Newcastle squad. Whoever does it now must start with an entire back four, a more cohesive midfield and, if they can hold on to Owen, possibly a new strike partner for him. Obafemi Martins may have netted 11 goals but successful passes to Owen were rare. Roeder said: "There are players who have been here too long and probably need to move on. Some will benefit from a new experience and motivation. We have a few players who have gone stale and need to move. "Very few stay at clubs for long and do well the whole time. It can be a cruel business, but decisions have to be made and if you don’t let players go who are not what you’d expect a Newcastle player to be and good enough to be in a team that’s challenging for Europe, then actually it becomes a very easy decision. Because it’s the right one." Newcastle could have done with McCarthy, who is the third highest Premiership scorer with 15 goals, but admits he is looking forward to the end of his first English campaign. He said: "I’m starting to really miss my family. It’s been a very long season and especially hard for me. I’ve tried my utmost and adapted really well, but gone a whole season without seeing them and without having anyone very close to me. "People say I’ve done fantastically well but they don’t understand how much I miss my family and how I’ve had to adapt to a new culture. It’s been really hard, so I’d love the season to be over and done."

What the hell have we asked Rijkaard???

I wouldn't either ... But think about it, Sven is arguably one of the most hated figures in this country because of his stint with England. Considering all we have been through, would he risk bringing such a person to Newcastle? Sven would be against the ropes from the get go. Also, we would be a laughing stock almost because everyone else thinks Sven is a joke. It would be quite risky wouldn't it?

It's not Allardyce it can't be. Why would Freddy dismiss him on the day he was going to get rid of Roeder if he knew he would appoint him anyway? Doesn't make sense ...

With one game to go and Glenn being ushered out and with nobody available on our staff who is good enough to act as caretaker manager, could we already have a new man in charge by next Sunday?

So who is the new man in charge going to eb Parky? Any news coming through from your sources?

Apparently Strachan's contract with Celtic is a 12 month rolling one and so he is available ... He also has the same agent as Sven in Athole Still. Could we have been in discussions with him and not sven?

;D I know I shouldn't laugh but that was hilarious ...

Fight Freddy? Nah ... They've currently got Roeder and Allardyce stripped down to their underpants with gloves on, going toe to toe for the job. Roeder struggling and blaming injuries already ... claims Allardyce has spat his gum in his eye.

WOW!!! Are you serious???

What do you guys thin then? Is it definitely Big Sam? I don't think it will be because Freddy stated just this morning that he had never spoken to him. Would he have bothered doing that if he knew Roeder was getting the boot today?

Yea i agree, Some people on here are even calling Keane a fantastic manager That's the thing about it though ... at this point he doesn't have to be the greatest manager yet (as far as tactics go etc). The fact is that his players will not go out on the pitch and give a lacklustre effort. They are very highly motivated to play for him, and Keane has to be given a lot of credit for knowing what players to bring in and knowing that they will perform for him. This is what I can't stand about Roeder. He is not great tactically but then this is compunded by the fact he cannot even get the players to play with committment and desire. It's pathetic really. So yeah Keane might not be a great manager but he is already better than Roeder!

Maybe so, but I am talking about the effect their achievements this season will have on our club this summer. I am hoping it will be a positive one that forces us into big changes. They might not do as well in the premiership next season but I have no doubt that if we remain as we are right now that Sunderland will be better than us.