Ronaldo

You again? The 'return' rarely goes to the club.

Quite agree with this. Hatem's our most capable player by far but the nonsense I've read about him on here is something, like. Apparently more talented than Bale and Rooney and with KK in charge he'd be the best player in the league - and that's just stuff coming from posters I respect.

Pardew is doing a shite job with Ben Arfa, other clubs showing an interest in him or not doesn't change that. Ben Arfa isn't doing himself justice and he never will if he's not playing games. I completely agree. I actually think it is worse than the Souness vs Robert/Bellamy stuff. Steady on, man, they were two players with a track record of turning mediocrity into Champions League finishes all by themselves, and they left the club for a combined £6m - the stuff of complete and utter madness. Bellamy was our best player and top PL scorer by far when he was frozen out. Robert had just had the season of his life when it happened to him.

Who gives a damn what those arseholes seem to think?

I'll refrain, just this once.

If I was Moyes I'd probably try to preserve a stalemate at OT then go for it at the Allianz.

They used to do that, didn't they? I don't think so this year.

Almost sig worthy.

Real will win it. Thought so all season.

Only Real would've been worse for them. Ouch indeed.

It's like you're in a constant battle to offer opposition to even the most basic common sense. Common sense is winning.

This I agree with. Even discounting the fact that it's sensible for the incoming players to reflect the style and mentality, ultimately the manager should know more about the game than anyone else at the club, anyway. Don't get me wrong here, I'd rather Pardew was having as little influence on the personnel as possible, but if he HAS to be here, I'd rather it was him picking which players we bring in than anyone else at NUFC. I think it's far more complicated than that. Firstly, the manager doesn't have time to watch enough players, so he must rely on scouts who he trusts to have a massive input. Secondly he doesn't know enough about finance and negotiation to do that side of things either. So yes, he should have a massive say, and he should probably be more important than the other people in the 'committee'. But I assume that is basically what happens at the majority of clubs anyway. You actively tried to disagree there and couldn't quite manage it. Such a strange lad.

This I agree with. Even discounting the fact that it's sensible for the incoming players to reflect the style and mentality, ultimately the manager should know more about the game than anyone else at the club, anyway. Don't get me wrong here, I'd rather Pardew was having as little influence on the personnel as possible, but if he HAS to be here, I'd rather it was him picking which players we bring in than anyone else at NUFC.

He hasn't let a manager have a genuine say in transfers since Allardyce pissed away nearly £7m on Alan Smith.

Man U under Moyes are still generally very good away from home, and we've got nowt to play for.

2 games in which he scored, basically.

“I’m my own man and I will manage this football club to the best of my ability,” he said. “Graham comes up with one or two suggestions, I come up with the same, we probably have a list of four that myself and Graham think will take the team forward, we present that to Joe, and he presents it to the owner. And if Pardew wants a player and Carr doesn't, they don't sign him. Pardew isn't in charge, and never has been. EDIT: That quote contradicts your point anyway.

He's never been in charge of transfers, by his own admission.

So basically Lee Charnley reports directly to Ashley.

Wanted us to sign him for years. Messi says he's shit, though.

You should be. You'll do us at SJP.

10 minutes to go Spurs were 2-1 up, like.

I'd let it go if it was even vaguely accurate.

Why? He's as miserable as they come. He is, and his style of football isn't much to desire, but I just think he has - in a way - drawn the short straw going there. He's not a bad manager and the way the media go on about him suggests he is. No-one would have matched up to Ferguson who wasn't already at a "super club" for love of a better term. Sticks two fingers up at the media and any fans doubting him the result tonight. For me, from what little I have seen of ManUre this season, it's the players who need to be held responsible and the amount of desire shown. Moyes has proved over the past 12 years he's a very good manager. The opposing argument is incredibly weak. Moyes has proved he's good at making a limited team perform well in the English leagues with a limited budget. If that's your height of ambition then I suppose Hull city have done well. Did Hull City accumulate more points than any other side PL side barring Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool during Moyes' 11 years at Everton? This is coming from the poster who repeatedly insisted that the best manager the league's ever seen rightly wanted to sign Cheick Tiote for Man U, by the way. When I make an assessment of a player I don't need pie charts or stats usually. That's not to say Tiote, Colo, Enrique and Williamson have been great players necessarily, just they were good buys at the time. Your support of Steve Taylor and Moyes doesn't stand up so well. I backed Rodgers for Liverpool because he played correct football. You scoffed at that, but which team is heading in the right direction right now between Man U and the scousers? I can't decide whether you're a WUM or just utterly thick as mince.

I don't know where to even begin, so I won't.