Chris_R

I've read every word you've repeatedly quoted, but you're still wrong until you quote it without the bit saying "People often forget though that the biggest and best protest they can ever make is just simply walking away". That's the bit I'm saying is utterly incorrect. And it is utterly incorrect. Maybe try to read and comprehend what I'm saying?

In the age of IPTV, I’m not sure why anyone would have them in the first place. This. I'm completely baffled as to why anyone would even contemplate having Sky in this day and age.

What you're saying is utterly wrong. 200 people walking away will have no impact on his income at NUFC or any other business, and will have no impact on his decision to stay or go as our owner. That same 200 people mobilising to give all of his companies dogs' abuse online whenever they post on Twitter, protesting against his stores, posting reviews their experiences of his businesses etc will have a massive impact on those businesses, their ability to advertise and their income, and their ability to attract new clients. Scale that number up in either case from 200, the point stands either way. Don't get me wrong, not turning up is a start, but direct action is far more effective than just not turning up. If you can find the bit where i mentioned 200 people i'd be obliged I never said you did mention 200. That's my number, I even said scale it up to any other number. Or down if you prefer. It's an arbitrary example but my point stands. Even 52000 staying away will have less impact than 52000 protesting vociferously and making Ashley's life and his businesses lives a living hell. Just today the BBC ran an article titled "these clubs could run at a loss with 0 fans" or something, basically showing how little clubs rely on revenue from the stands these days. Staying away is great, it's a good start, certainly morally it's the right starting point. But we can do so much more and we absolutely should do more. Staying away on its own will do the square root of fuck all as far as removing this parasitic arsehole from the club goes. It's a fucking war, and you don't fight a war just by ignoring the enemy.

What you're saying is utterly wrong. 200 people walking away will have no impact on his income at NUFC or any other business, and will have no impact on his decision to stay or go as our owner. That same 200 people mobilising to give all of his companies dogs' abuse online whenever they post on Twitter, protesting against his stores, posting reviews their experiences of his businesses etc will have a massive impact on those businesses, their ability to advertise and their income, and their ability to attract new clients. Scale that number up in either case from 200, the point stands either way. Don't get me wrong, not turning up is a start, but direct action is far more effective than just not turning up.

Literally seen 0 rumours like this. Yeah, Bishop can't post them on Twitter for fear of getting abuse, so he's just telling people in person down the pub. You'll have to wait for it to spread, old-school style.

Maybe you're right, I don't know. I just get the feeling that the media battle is already lost, so worrying about them not being on our side is moot. Ashley and Bishop have the money, the media don't care about what the "right" side is, old style journalism and journalistic integrity is long dead. If that's the case, we're just left deciding whether to fight this machete-wielding person by sticking to the Queensbury rules, or whether we should look for a gun. (Not that I'm advocating killing, for clarity if MA etc are trawling this site looking for lawsuits. Wouldn't surprise me. It's just an analogy, not a suggestion.)

This really. They aren't playing fair with paying b-list ex players and managers to come out and say what a good job poor Mike is doing, so if we start trying to we're going to be outmanoeuvred. Anyone associated with any of them, on any level, is fair game. Destroy any positive relationship which any of them have with anyone. Make them utterly toxic to associate with. Don't call people cunts though, not the people who are just clients. Just ruin the relationship, make it not worth their effort to stay with Bishop.

Well I enjoyed reviewing HoF. I enjoyed it so much, I might do it again tomorrow.

Yeah, and Sheik Mansour should have bought HMV and the Glazers should have bought Woolworths. Didn't see those news stories being thrown around, so why is this any different? Cunts. They all need taking down. Everyone complicit in this. People and organisations need to see what happens to those who take Bishop's pound so that they tell him to GTF when he calls them asking them to spout this tripe.

Christ, I wouldn't let Derek Wright open a can of beans for me, let alone perform an operation.

No. Because I'm just writing them here as I think of them now. But I might well do when I can put them coherently, if I think it'll make a difference - Bit late tonight to be composing eloquent emails.

And I'm not meaning to be too critical, I support everything that's in any way connected to getting this parasite out of our club. I'm just suggesting how I personally, for what little my opinion is worth, think The Magpie Group could do things a little better. Maybe I'm utterly wrong, of course. It's just my opinion. Again, I'm behind everything that can push him out.

What did you make of the protest at the weekend in front of Sports Direct ? I thought it was good to see, to see all those people there was fantastic. Well done to everyone. But the thing that's got Ashley's attention and that has had an actual affect is the #IfRafaGoes stuff, that's actually had an effect on his businesses and that's what's made him bite and react. Also, regarding the protest, I did think it was poorly communicated. For so long it was just "turn up at 11" and no indication of what the actual plan was. People need to feel involved.

Hope you will be at the public meeting that's currently being planned? A public meeting. In 2018. Really? Or is that just a token effort to get people involved, give them one shot to speak up and say their piece? I mean I hope lots of people go and get something out of it, I really do. I may go myself if I'm available. But that's the thing, people have jobs that are different times of the day, people live in different locations, people have commitments. I travel for work and am often abroad so I may not even be in the country. Use the internet ffs. Let people contribute where and when they want, continuously, not once at a set time and place. Maybe there's more "secret forums", make them public. Or make a different public one at least because obviously there needs to be some discreet talks at different levels, or use this forum officially and with proper, known representation from the group present to discuss things and reply to people. #IfRafaGoesWeGo worked so wonderfully because anyone can do it. At any time. It's so simple and easy, and everyone can participate in their own way. This Magpie Group seems the reverse of that, with a "wait for us to tell you what to do" mentality.

Well that's why you don't keep doing the same thing. There needs to be some variation, and I'd suggest some way to "join" and be part of the movement, rather than waiting for some self-styled, unelected, clandestine leadership council to just tell you what you're supposed to do next. People need to feel involved, but they're making the process a little exclusive IMO and people will lose interest I imagine if that continues. Just my opinion, of course.

There's two sides in this, and Shola has picked the wrong one. Whether his opinion is his own or Keith bishops is irrelevant, he's on the list now too. This is a war, fuck him.

This, definitely. Now what I'd say is that for the next protest, not only should everyone who went today also attend, but everyone should commit to taking one friend with them who didn't go today. This thing has to grow, not die. He's rattled, he's biting, we're getting to him. Bishop is telling him this will die down, we need to prove him wrong.

If Rafa Benitez is happy, the only way I'll actually believe this is if he signs a new contract. Until he does, it's full steam ahead.

I don't know one person who has said we have Championship players, but plenty of people are exasperated that we're still fielding the same squad we had whilst in the Championship. There's a subtle but important distinction there. Our ambition is just to survive each year and advertise Sports Direct. Neither of those things interest me.

He's been promising to do better for a fucking decade. At this stage there is absolutely nothing he can say, and almost nothing he could do that would convince me to cut him any slack. He needs hounding out of the club, and every business interest of his needs to be treat as badly as if we were talking to Ashley himself. He only cares about money so hit him where it hurts. Everything he tries to associate himself with needs to be toxic.

Just thinking - Wouldn't surprise me one single bit if this statement was a condition of the bonus scheme being agreed upon by the club. I can see Rafa and Lascelles agreeing that for the good of the players - Though they probably didn't expect the statement would be used to firefight Ashley's use of the transfer funds we didn't spend to buy House of fucking Fraser.

More evidence they're rattled. Keep turning up the pressure, it's clearly working. I'll know Rafa's actually happy when he signs a new contract. That's the real proof, not some shite like this from a PR firm. Until Rafa does sign a new contract, which I severely doubt he ever will, my sentiments will not change one bit towards Ashley and his cronies. Again: They're rattled or they wouldn't have done this. Let's keep it going.

Ha, he's just spent £90m to increase our audience 30-fold.

We probably will be OK, but that's because we've got one of the best managers in the world. But what we've done to him over the last few transfer windows is like employing Michelangelo to paint your ceiling but then just giving him a box of crayons. Yeah, you'll still get a nice picture, but when you go and tell your mates what you've done and what he's produced, they're going to rightly fucking laugh at you.

It's disgusting. Not remotely surprising, on any level whatsoever, but still utterly disgusting. This cunt needs running out of town.