Chris_R

There's no situation in which he'd have gotten any money. Not signed? Fine, fuck you, we're spending nothing on players. Signed? Mug, now you're tied in, we're spending nothing on players. This. We all know how it would have played out if he'd signed. And blaming Rafa for 3 "failures"... Every single team signs players that don't work out. Just such a rubbish excuse. Plus, it's not even like they cost much. We've lost money on players who cost next to nothing and were, for the most part, squad fillers.

#WeTried

"Rafa can have every penny the club generates" x 2. Rafa surely has enough evidence for a constructive dismissal case, should he walk! Sorry to be so blunt, but people saying this kind of thing have no clue as to how constructive dismissal cases work. I hate Ashley and what he's done to our club as much as anyone, but him refusing to spend money is not in any way grounds for a constructive dismissal case. He is well within his rights to spend nothing, if he so desires. Here's some examples of what constitutes constructive dismissal, from a prominent law firm's website: a unilateral significant reduction of your salary, or the threat of a reduction ; being demoted without good reason; allegations of poor performance which are unfounded; disciplinary proceedings which are manifestly unreasonable; a complete change in the nature of your job; harassing or bullying ; stress at work, that has not been properly addressed; failing to make reasonable adjustments where you have a disability; being forced to work in breach of health and safety laws. Literally none of those apply, and certainly "being generally useless, changing his mind about funds and being a bit of a smug cunt" simply aint on the list. He's a shite, even horrific, employer and totally incompetent and leaching the club dry, but I can't see where a constructive dismissal claim would come from unless you want to illuminate me? See Keegan, Kevin. Such a nonsense response. What happened to Keegan isn't automatically the same as what's happened to Rafa. Sure, they've both been fucked about by the same shit owner, but to suggest that because one successfully claimed constructive dismissal the other has the same claim is palpable craziness. Don't get me wrong, maybe Rafa *does* have a case, I'm not saying he doesn't, but if he does it's based on what's been said to Rafa, not what happened with Keegan. And what's been said to Rafa has been said in private and we're not privvy to it so to claim he's got a constructive dismissal case is just silly. We simply don't know, and to go further on the evidence we have got there's no case to answer at all.

"Rafa can have every penny the club generates" x 2. Rafa surely has enough evidence for a constructive dismissal case, should he walk! Sorry to be so blunt, but people saying this kind of thing have no clue as to how constructive dismissal cases work. I hate Ashley and what he's done to our club as much as anyone, but him refusing to spend money is not in any way grounds for a constructive dismissal case. He is well within his rights to spend nothing, if he so desires. Here's some examples of what constitutes constructive dismissal, from a prominent law firm's website: a unilateral significant reduction of your salary, or the threat of a reduction ; being demoted without good reason; allegations of poor performance which are unfounded; disciplinary proceedings which are manifestly unreasonable; a complete change in the nature of your job; harassing or bullying ; stress at work, that has not been properly addressed; failing to make reasonable adjustments where you have a disability; being forced to work in breach of health and safety laws. Literally none of those apply, and certainly "being generally useless, changing his mind about funds and being a bit of a smug cunt" simply aint on the list. He's a shite, even horrific, employer and totally incompetent and leaching the club dry, but I can't see where a constructive dismissal claim would come from unless you want to illuminate me?

No, click the link. That's what I had to do, it's still up though.

I think they'll batten down the hatches and hope to ride it out. Hopefully if they do, the pressure remains relentless.

I've just remembered something today. In November 2016 I ordered some trainers from the SD website (I know). The idiots delivered them to a house 400 meters away presumably because they couldn't find my house (the postcode sometimes doesn't come up on new sat navs) and then told me to "phone the police" when I went round and the person in the house denied having them. After a few more emails, they said they were going to stop replying to me having already told me what to do, and then just went silent. I was furious as to me it's their job to deliver them correctly, not up to me to be phoning the cops on people when they don't (Citizens' advice agreed with me on this), and swore I'd never touch them with a barge pole ever again, but wrote the money off as lost because it was only about £40 and I couldn't be arsed. Now I'm bored and angry, so I think I'll take the cunts to the small claims court. Anyone ever done anything like that before? Any advice?

Have you been in a coma for a decade? He bites at everything. He's a man-child obsessed with SD and unable to resist reacting when people have a pop. He's like a shit Donald Trump ffs.

Protests won't get him out of the club. Untill some one pays him his asking price he'll stick around unfortunately True, but isn't that the same for anyone? Nobody sells anything until their asking price is met. So we make his life so fucking miserable that he lowers his asking price. Simple.

KBA fashion been on twitter since 2017 weirdly I actually meant accounts to make comments on the chronicle website etc. Should have been clearer, sorry.

Yeah KBA probably setting up a few fake accounts to try to make some positive comments, or at least to direct the abuse in a way they find preferable. Problem is, there'll be a couple of them and tens of thousands of us. Good luck, shitbreak.

Still up. Still getting absolute pelters. I love how they're trying to slyly advertise in public, as if they fail to understand the concept of either social media, or even the internet in general. It's a beautiful sight to see.

What's he saying? Spoke really well actually. Laid all the facts out in layman’s terms over a few minutes and made it virtually impossible for anyone to argue otherwise. Highlighted the lack of investment, the recurring bonus issues and the poor training facilities. Basically an eloquent version of on here If their whole paper took that stance and had a decent pop at Ashley on a consistent basis, I might even visit their website without an adblocker on.

Already been deleted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6AtG4pmX_Y

Only if you crowd around it whacking it with shoes.

He isn't allowed to.

Sky wouldn't show it anyway. Not that this is a reason not to do it, but don't expect the TV cameras to be all over it except maybe to point out how irresponsible we all are and how we're trying to recreate the Bradford stadium fire. Though it could be done outside SD instead of inside the ground? Not that either was explicitly suggested, I just assumed we were talking inside the ground.

Yep, with you there. Mong not a good word.

Bit rough. That's exactly what it does though. I agree that "lying" is a far better word. For one, it's actually something to be upset at him about, secondly, it's accurate whereas cockney isn't, and thirdly it doesn't make us look like idiots.

He's rattled. Let's keep it up. And he's bleating on about the relegation season again... Yeah, the relegation you fucking caused by years of neglect, you fucking tossbag. Then goes on about the world class manager we retained, well you're not trying very hard to retain him now, are you? "Every penny the club generates", you said. Lying piece of shit.

I don't think it does. The £20m was always at best a 10-1 chance, probably a lot higher. However illegal it is, he'd have stuck some money on somewhere/somehow at those kind of odds to mitigate his outlay. Not a chance on Earth would he ever have to pay out £20m of his own money and even if he did, it was only a possible outlay once in a blue moon. Giving Rafa the £20m for transfers happens 100% of the time in that second scenario. You can't compare the 2.

How dare the players want a share of the prize money for a high league finish. Fucking cheek of it. Cunt.

Yup - he will have been slipped some cash by Bishop. https://talksport.com/football/407012/newcastle-united-news-rafa-benitez-transfers-sam-allardyce/ Are you suggesting Allardyce has taken an envelope full of money for doing something a bit disingenuous? I find that hard to believe....! Surely they'd have more success with these kind of actions if they decided to get someone remotely un-cunty onboard? Though the "Allardyce as next manager" stuff makes perfect and horrific sense, he's Ashley's wet dream. Will keep us up, won't require much to work with, and who cares that the football is horrific because Ashley doesn't even go to the games, he just wants the results.

It’s not baffling at all. He clearly can’t stand Rafa and wants him to walk, and is trying to make his position completely untenable to force the issue. He’s acting rationally and efficiently in pursuit of that preference. It's baffling as he's accidentally appointed someone enormously competent to run one of his major businesses and seems determined to fuck up that person's chances of succeeding, which would make him richer and his business grow. Aside from my partisan feelings towards Newcastle, on a purely business front it's just incredulous.

Ashley just seems determined to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. It's just so baffling on so many levels.