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We probably do have a margin for error TBH, the problem is you don’t know what it is until the end.

I’m sure we don’t need to win all our games. A win tomorrow will make things much clearer, hopefully.

They just want a Bruno.

If you look through the current PL badges, most are decent and most have been redesigned quite recently. The club have indicted a refresh rather than a total departure, so personally I’m optimistic.

I think this was just trendy at the time though, I’m pretty sure we won’t go for anything as extreme as that this time.

I’ve only been thinking about Forest and Chelsea for a while now. Man City are in, Villa were too far behind, it’s just those two we need to focus on. Villa have got slightly closer obviously but overall we would have had to really collapse to finish behind them.

They buy strikers who aren’t really strikers.

No.

Villa shouldn’t matter to us at the end of the season. Uncomfortable if they catch up temporarily but if they finish ahead then we’ve really, really messed it up.

Or Jacob Murphy.

Coventry and Sunderland did finish nearly 30 points each behind the leaders TBF.

I don’t disagree but I don’t think it’s going to break down like that. It’s more general.

Wow.

In 3 of the hardest games like.

I think the magpie one is definitely the closest to the prevailing style in the modern game. A modern version of that could be really good.

The survey is fairly pointless, just asking to rate elements of the badge Like, I want a river or maritime reference but you do that with a river rather than two seahorses, for example. And the current castle is not an important part of the badge for me, but a bigger and more prominent castle would maybe be cool. Hard to answer with anything that will be useful.

That's also the direction they say on the press release (minimal change).

Gorgeous. FWIW must PL badges are not ultra simple, so I expect something closer to this style of design.

The Everton ultra simple crest looks class IMO, but I assume Everton fans went apeshit about it.

I’ve said before clubs should have and use multiple logos like American sports teams do. I guess to some extent we’re doing this by using the retro badges again. We might still continue to use the current crest on some products I guess.

Does it?

I mean, I agree but surely there’s lots of symbolism in the current badge already?

Same feelings. Thing it could be good. I’m generally not nostalgic though and more excited about change than about history.

I’d expect like remove the name, maybe remove the lion and flag, simplify the other parts and maybe reshape it somehow into a shield or circle. Seahorse tongues back in their gobs. There are probably loads of examples on the internet already.