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Tom, I see where you're coming from about the countdown and christmas poem highlighting 'something serious', but you have to realise that the most important thing in communications/PR is not just getting the message across, but how you get the message across. You must realise that a billionaire businessman is supremely unlikely to engage in discussion with a group that resorts to such measures. It seems we've reached the point where nothing more can be said, if Ashley selling is the objective you want, so NUSC should use this opportunity to show themselves as balanced, reasoned and pursuing some other issues.

Do you not mean BeyeTV?

Will be interesting to see how he gets on, will prove if me Allardyce hatred is justified or not.

I don't think we can really draw any conclusions about managers and/or Ince, except that they generally don't get given enough time to get things right.

Agreed, if Souness goes to Blackburn and Allardyce to Sunderland I'll literally celebrate.

I imagine he will already have a relegation release clause, I guess they're quite common for players of his stature.

Don't know the hell is happening with Diarra. He's hardly played a game at any of the clubs he's been at but he keeps getting these transfers, seems a bit mad.

There is no better ground then SJP, FACT.

I agree, if fit he is a very useful player... at the moment though I'm not sure he's ready.

He's class, and we needed him.

Was a no-win situation for Incey, Blackburn were over performing before he took the job and the only way was down for Blackburn. Not sure if he's been bad enough to get the sack, I suppose it's the same debate every time a manager gets the boot.

I think the bit in bold is very important to understanding the overall breakdown of the system (and maybe its inherent flaws). As you say, both Keegan and Wise/Jim/Vetere needed to be free to do their jobs, but the budget is limited and the team selection is Keegan's, so there is the biggest sticking point IMO.

Not bothering, I'm horrible with predictions.

Lovely looking ground IMO.

So because someone has done a good job in the past no modern regime can get any credit?

I knew this thread was a risky idea!

So the poor squad is the reason for Kinnear's shocking tactics in some of the games he's managed? Nope, I didn't say that, I just said that the squad being weak/strong has to be taken into account. Of course it does, but a weak squad doesn't account for piss-poor decisions by the manager. I agree!

That looks awesome, shame you can't guarantee the football year will be good before you start!

So the poor squad is the reason for Kinnear's shocking tactics in some of the games he's managed? Nope, I didn't say that, I just said that the squad being weak/strong has to be taken into account.

Good point fredbob, if the squad isn't good enough then the blame applicable to the manager must go down, if it is good enough then the regime should get some credit for assembling it.

The difference between a target and an expectation is important I reckon, 6th place is a good target for the club but I think the fans need to be patient if/when we don't reach it.

Alan Hansen seems to think he'd have nothing to gain by signing a contract at this point, and I have to agree. He'd be better off waiting until the end of the season, if he plays well he will be much more in demand then.

bobyule, I don't get it... what point are you making? Nobody suddenly thinks Owen is the messiah, but it was a class goal no matter how you look at it.

I think most managers disagree with you. Well I'm applying for the next Premiership vacancy then

I think NUSC really need to consider that there is more than one view among fans, and that their one track mind is doing them no good at all.