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I love KK, and it is very easy to accept his version of events at face value. But the statements coming out of the club lead me to believe that it isn't as straighforward as that, it if KK had been a slightly more sensible and less volatile character then their may have been a way forward for him to stay. For me this has taken the shine off Keegan for good, I don't know all the facts but that's my instinctive reaction.

Me too lads, I don't actually know what we would be protesting about.

You know what, I wouldn't be surprised if she writes a very pro Keegan piece now She probably will, it seems it's the club she hates.

I agree, although he isn't a bad manager it would be insane bearing in mind the fans reaction.

not before the hull game but i agree Guys, I'd love to see KK back as much as anyone but there's no way that is going to happen. If Ashley was planning to get out that easily he would have just given in to everything Keegan asked for in the first place.

Exactly, the idea that they were 'right all along' is taking it way too far.

Don't think I can post any useful contribution rightnow, just fallen out of love with football in a big way.

I can't see us accepting anyone called Marcelino anywhere near St James' Park! i'm sure someone told me the infamous broken finger marcelino is chief scout at liverpool now. That explains a lot.

I can't see us accepting anyone called Marcelino anywhere near St James' Park!

We could go round in circles about this for ages, obviously we have different views about the merits of the new owner. But if you mean that Ashley doesn't have a clue what's going on, then you don't know that and neither does anyone else. Look. None of us are party to 'the facts' and in these situations we probably never will be. But I know what I see...I see a man who loves the club and even with mighty odds stacked against him has got an average side to play spells of good football (even a respectable draw at ManU)...I see a man who is clearly our key asset behaving like a person who clearly feels alienated and fed up with things around him. Yeah, I agree with that. All we don't know is what has made him feel like that and whether he's justified. I'm not arguing against Keegan, I love the guy.

I disagree completely, I think that's the best thing that could happen - it would show that all parties were mature and had the capacity for compromise, as well as having the best interests of the club at heart. More likely it would show that Keegan can't afford to leave from a financial point of view or that the board can't bring themselves to sack him, fearing the supporters backlash. So we soldier on waiting for this to inevitably boil over again, and we get another week of this. Ideally everything would be rosy and nothing would need to change. But that really doesn't seem to be the case. I'm not so sure, everyone in football seems to have got into a mindset where if a manager disagrees with an owner then one of them has to go. But there's no reason it has to work like that is there? I think it would be great if everyone was still in their jobs after this. I'm not saying that everything would stay the same, but I think it's more a case of the system/balance of power needing to be tweaked than someone needing to be booted out.

We could go round in circles about this for ages, obviously we have different views about the merits of the new owner. But if you mean that Ashley doesn't have a clue what's going on, then you don't know that and neither does anyone else.

Look, I know that under the Hall/Shepherd regimes we achieved a lot and had some of the greatest times we've ever had. I'll not forget them for that, it was amazing. But where were we at the end? Heading for the championship with a crippling wage budget, massive debts and Sam Allardyce as the latest in a line of hastily appointed and then prematurely axed managers... each given a transfer budget that the club clearly was struggling to sustain. So Ashley comes in, thoroughly reviews the club and because of that decides he needs to change the structure. He does so, and brings back Kevin Keegan in the process. We all think he's brilliant. Then this week's events happen, and because there appears to be a disagreement between Keegan and one or more of the senior staff we're discussing whether Ashley has 'failed Newcastle'. Moles are longer sighted than that TBH.

I've surprised myself over this whole affair. Being a hardcore Keegan devotee from the first time round I thought I would share the view that what he says goes, and that the system should be scrapped/remoulded to accomodate him. But in fact I find myself hoping that he will compromise as much as Ashley will. I realy hope that the objections of Keegan, however great he might be, don't lead to the dismantling of what I think is a solid recruitment and spending policy.

The fact anyone is seriously considering that Ashley has 'failed Newcastle' is a sad reflection on the jerky knees of some of our fans. I can think of some other verbs for what he's done for Newcastle, 'saved' being the one I would go for.

Have we got the full set of randomly made up opposite possible theories yet? We must be getting close now

NUFC.com have been doing some world-class stirring in the last 48 hours like, I wonder if they actually know anything?

I disagree completely, I think that's the best thing that could happen - it would show that all parties were mature and had the capacity for compromise, as well as having the best interests of the club at heart.

Aye, I think we've reached the point where we just have to wait for another statement from the club, or for KK to turn up for the Hull game. Nothing new has come out, despite what SSN might think.

I agree to a certain extent, I would have preferred for them to have the meetings and discussions after training as well. All I can think is that the situation was so serious that if the meetings had not been held then Keegan would already have quit. Obviously we don't know what is going on but it does sound like we were very close to losing him. I would agree with you that if Keegan's demands are unreasonable then Ashely should show him the door. But again, I haven't a clue what has been said so I'll just wait and see. I think the fact that this hasn't already ended with a furious bust-up and KK walking out is testament to how hard both sides are working to sort it out. Given that, I'll forgive Keegan a couple of days of missed training.

You'd have thought they'd have learned their lesson after yesterday. Either they've got a very well-informed source or they're reporting absolute bollocks again. I go with the latter.

This isn't a big deal, we know that discussions are ongoing. Also, it's the international break, so I don't know how many of the players will be there anyway.

I think the overwhelming logic of the system that Ashley has put in place is the main thing that will mean we come out of this with a decent result. Keegan must be able to see that Ashley is doing right for the club financially, and that the signings (whether KK's or not) have been good ones. Therefore the best resut will be a compromise, and I still think we can get that. I still thinka compromise can be reached. They would have said he was leaving by now if it was impossible and sort out the compo later. I think there's a very good chance KK will be in the dugout against Hull in fact I'd say the odds are higher than 50%. If Ashley had no room for negotiation liek I said he would be gone. Ashley is obviously willing to compromise to some extent and I'd expect KK to do the same for the good of the club. Defo, keep the faith everyone.

There's no way that's true, if there was a 'revolt' (which there isn't) can you imagine Michael Owen 'leading it'? Laughable. Certainly is laughable, but no more so than most of the other tripe written recently. Preaching to the converted there my friend.

There's no way that's true, if there was a 'revolt' (which there isn't) can you imagine Michael Owen 'leading it'? Laughable.