Broadsword

I love how some people make out that Ashley is doing things radically different from any other club or the previous board here. When we bought players in their mid-twenties before they were over the hill / on the way down / looking for one last payday (only if they turned out to be less than brilliant of course), now when we buy or look at players in their mid-twenties they are young and hungry and can only improve (typically because they've done nothing their past careers to be on the way down from). All clubs and the previous board here would buy players on the quiet if at all possible and to say this is some radical departure by Ashley is just not true, especially considering all the fuss this window over the first choice players we were after and didn't sign. Just as an example, we signed 4 players in the Summer of 06, Duff, Martins, Sibierski & Bernard 3 out of those 4 were completely out of the blue. Duff wasn't out of the blue. It took a while for the confirmation to come through. Bernard doesn;t count as a signing and Martins took ages to come through. So 1 out of the blue signing 4 years ago. Nice. Not how I remember it. Reports were all about Duff going to Spurs. Then news leaked about us & Liverpool being interested and we signed him the next day. So it wasn't out of the blue then?

I love how some people make out that Ashley is doing things radically different from any other club or the previous board here. When we bought players in their mid-twenties before they were over the hill / on the way down / looking for one last payday (only if they turned out to be less than brilliant of course), now when we buy or look at players in their mid-twenties they are young and hungry and can only improve (typically because they've done nothing their past careers to be on the way down from). All clubs and the previous board here would buy players on the quiet if at all possible and to say this is some radical departure by Ashley is just not true, especially considering all the fuss this window over the first choice players we were after and didn't sign. Just as an example, we signed 4 players in the Summer of 06, Duff, Martins, Sibierski & Bernard 3 out of those 4 were completely out of the blue. Duff wasn't out of the blue. It took a while for the confirmation to come through. Bernard doesn;t count as a signing and Martins took ages to come through. So 1 out of the blue signing 4 years ago. Nice.

Used to play for them though! Whoosh!

No wonder this club gets a reputation of having deluded fans. Calling Fulham a nothing club. Dear me.

He most probably won't as he must have PL options closer to home. If he does then great - if not it'll be like when John Salako preferred Coventry City to us. Remember that ? what? john solako was all but signed until the deal with PSG for geourge weah went pear shaped and they sold him to ac milan and offered us ginola as a sweetener, sory but solako never turned us down, in fact i remember he was very bitter at the way we dropped him like a lead baloon in favour of ginola I thought Salako failed his medical?

He has got the football decisions really wrong. The finance side is another matter.

Yup, deserves some credit for the debt thing. No excuse for every other mistake he's made mind, but that bit he got right. He had to pay it off. It's not like he did it out of the kindness of his heart. It's amazing how some fans just don't seem to realise the position we would have been in had that debt still been around the club. It's quite fortunate really, in a sick kind of way. You do know why the money had to be repaid, don't you? Yes I do but I don't give a crap why he had to pay it off. It's gone and the repayments have gone too and the prospect of it needing to be refinanced in the future has gone aswell. The debts that remain are largely unsecured now, players fees, Ashley etc. I don't think Barclays would have been so agreeable to a £20m or £40m overdraft (whichever it ended up being) if that debt and those repayments were still on the books. We would have been in the exact same position as W Ham, Portsmouth etc etc stuck with a debt we couldn't pay off with an owner not willing to pay in any money to sort it out. There's no way Ashley would have paid that debt off if he had not have had to. Imagine that at the beginning of this season when the negotiations with Barclays were happening. It was fortunate it was just a few overpaid players we had to sell to get them to back us as it could have been a whole load worse.

Yup, deserves some credit for the debt thing. No excuse for every other mistake he's made mind, but that bit he got right. He had to pay it off. It's not like he did it out of the kindness of his heart. It's amazing how some fans just don't seem to realise the position we would have been in had that debt still been around the club. It's quite fortunate really, in a sick kind of way.

Because Ashley paid off most of our large debts that would have needed refinancing and reorganised a working capital loan with BArclays and keeps lumping in £20m or so every now and then. Without him, we most certainly would be like every other club.

Charver to sign on loan! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1246789/Newcastle-strengthen-defence-loan-capture-Tottenham-Sunderland-trialist-Osman-Chavez.html?ITO=1490

Harper S Taylor R Taylor Colo Enrique Barton Nolan Guthrie Jonas Ameobi Lovenkrands Smith Caroll bah basically everyone, I can't see us spending much to improve next year so those player swill have to make the core of the team. Sad but true. More likely will be Jonas, Enrique and Colo leaving.

We own the building and the land is under lease. I am sure the lease will be worth something too, how many years left on the lease? The land is only worth something to people who do not want to use it as a football stadium, which the council will not allow. It just means the club can never sell up and develop houses on it, a bit like York city have agreed to do. The council can revoke the lease I guess but it is virtually never ever going to happen. To someone wanting to set up a new football club in Newcastle the stadium would be worth £100m to them as the only other option would be to buy or lease the land elsewhere and rebuild a new one, probably cost twice that to do it that way.

IT IS A FACT...............................

Louise Taylor being a s***-stirring, lying bitch that knew nothing. But then the realisation that she actually had the situation spot on when Keegan did walk out.

Of course it does, I am not disputing that. Even an email telling me that it was about to expire would have been enough. That policy is designed to get people to forget so they can take your cash. It is not on really. I guess the trick is to pay and then immediately cancel. Tried to contact them using the form on the website and ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <[email protected]> (reason: 550 5.1.1 Recipient not recognized: [email protected]) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mx261.emailfiltering.com.: >>> RCPT To:<[email protected]> <<< 550 5.1.1 Recipient not recognized: [email protected] 550 5.1.1 <[email protected]>... User unknown Nice one. Sent one off to premiumtv instead. I would be happy with paying £17.99 to be honest but £39.99 is too much. Plus there are no terms and conditions anywhere to be found that I can see.

I am sure I did, but regardless it's a crappy practice this auto renew malarky. At least an email telling me the new rate would have given me a chance to make a decision or not. To just take a payment a year later is not exactly fair to be honest.

Bah, I signed up for this last year at £17.99 and just got a charge to my debit card for £39.99 for this year. No email no nothing. I feel ripped off to be honest. Anyone ever managed to get refunded for this sort of thing?

Nope, capital losses against capital gains only I believe.

I don't think it actually means take it off the market but just start actively running the club again i.e. buying crap players and hiring out of touch managers. But why come out and say anything then? I don't see why he can;t do both a the same time, market the club and appoint shite managers.

Why does he have to take it off the market? I just dont understand his thinking at all. If he wants to sell then leave it on and just run the club like it should be run as if it wasn't for sale. It can still be marketed though. I hate the man for what his is doing to us.

If he poured £100m into the club, the club owes him £100m. If the club has £50m in cash available, then he is quite entitled to take that out of the club. If doing so however were to endanger the clubs status as a going concern and it goes bust because of that he would be liable personally. So yes, Ashley could take whatever out of the club he wants to until his loan is repaid.

Spurs announced last Friday that agreement had been reached for Bassong's transfer. The FA's deadline to get him registered prior to Newcastle's game was 5pm Friday. He wasn't registered until after that time so technically he was still Newcastle's player when Newcastle played West Brom. As he was still a Newcastle player for the West Brom game, he couldn't play because he was still suspended. He never played, the second match suspension was satisfied and so he is eligible to play against Liverpool next Sunday. The FA don't now list him as being suspended. http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/SuspensionLists.aspx Jesus christ that list has David Edgar being suspended for us in the premier League. Hardly accurate now is it?

Because he never has before and doing so would only make the final sale price less anyway so he gains nothing by doing so. The better answer was 'because thats embezzlement and against the law'. No its not and no it isn't.

I feel like I have just wandered into a room full of pot heads talking complete shite.

Is everyone in this thread smoking crack?