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Simple scenario, you live in these towns, you fancy watching the odd match, you fancy choosing a team to watch, in a neutral, casual, mild affinity way ... who do you go for? London - Fulham (nice location, nice fans, old school ground) Birmingham - Villa, of fucking course (FFS, don't make me explain this) Liverpool - Everton (proper grand old club) Manchester - City (not United) Sheffield - Wednesday - big club, hard times. Glasgow - Celtic Wild card - Nottingham Forest (for the Clough legacy)

How long has your brother been a Chelsea supporter?

I bet Aaron Hughes flailed around cluelessly, the clueless fecker.

Incidentally, I think Heskey has been excellent, too.

When we put Barry in centre midfield towards the end of last season, he honestly bossed games on a regular basis, and was the main reason we had that 10 match unbeaten run.

And an Aston Villa player to control midfield for 180 minutes.

That's because there haven't been any since 19 fucking 57.

Yes, plenty. At the 2002 WC there were a lot of Japanese England supporters. England are up there with Brazil when it comes to getting foreigners supporting our national team. Most "Brazilian" supporters at international tournaments are actually Finnish. I've just made that up, I think, but I'm a bit pissed, so boo-yah who cares.

Ha ha, witness this, the least convincing eulogy EVER.

Upper Trinity, near the halfway line, at the front, row E or less, definitely. Oh

I went from Israel to Egypt on the same passport. Never heard of people needing two?! Is it even legal to have duplicate passports? It is legal, yes. I too went from Israel to Arab countries with no problems (six month Israeli visa stamp in my passport), but a friend of mine (who came with us to Israel), his father worked in Libya for a US oil company (this was the mid 80s) and he had to have two passports, as Libyan stamps in your passport were the 80s equivalent of travelling with a muslim style beard and bulging rucksack. All arranged with the help of the FO, apparently

Whilst I agree Barry is in the best 11 outside the top four, I'm duty bound to point out that playing him at left back is a criminal waste of his talents, as any Villa fan would tell you. His best position is where he played for England on Saturday.

I can't believe anyone can put together an argument that Ken Bates was even a remotely half decent chairman. There arent many people I used to look at in the darkest days of the Ellis years and say "well, it could be worse", but Bates was one of them. Remember the electrified fences plan?

You know that Surman is white, I would hate to think you are trying to make this a colour thing. I'm talking about Agbonlahor. His dad is black, so his provenance is commented on. If his dad were white, it wouldn't get mentioned. That's a fact. Surman was at least born and lived in South Africa. "African connection" my fucking arse, Agbonlahor is as English as it gets. Lazy, lazy journalism.

I thought Gareth Barry was excellent today, really excellent. I fully expect him to be dropped for the next match.

Pennant should be in prison, the horrible fucking scrote.

I think England winning the world cup in my lifetime would make me very, very happy indeed. I know Villa winning the League and European Cup made me as happy as I've ever been in my life. Which would I choose? Option a for the first time in my life or either in option b to happen again? Option b every time.

I wonder if Agbonlahor's mum was Scottish and dad was, say, Italian, whether anyone would even mention it? I somehow doubt it. I wonder why that is?

Agbonlahor is from Erdington in Birmingham, and thus about as English as it gets. Oooh, but he's got a fancy foreign name. So have half the population of Birmingham.

Talking of which, interesting article here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/aston_villa/article2388758.ece *thumbs up*

Ignore this. I should read posts properly before posting.

1, I like to see that even the most hardened arsenal fans are unbiased. Isn't that what football is partly about, though? Staunch, partisan behaviour which flies in the face of all evidence? We're all as bad as each other at it. Witness how many people are predicting a top 4 finish for Newcastle in the Prem Predictions thread. That's what supporting a team is about. i wonder wher you'd put villa if you were to partake in that thread I'd say that Newcastle, Spurs, Villa, Everton, and Portsmouth (note the absence of Citeh) are entirely interchangeable in terms of predicted finish, there's really too little between them, and what little there is, it is far too early to be predicting how things are likely to turn out. it is but it's fun,go on i dare yah 1. Man United 2. Liverpool 3. Chelsea 4. Arsenal 5. Everton 6. Spurs 7. Villa 8. Newcastle 9. Portsmouth 10. West Ham 11-17 Dont care 18. Blue shite 19. Mackems 20. Derby.

I like to see that even the most hardened arsenal fans are unbiased. Isn't that what football is partly about, though? Staunch, partisan behaviour which flies in the face of all evidence? We're all as bad as each other at it. Witness how many people are predicting a top 4 finish for Newcastle in the Prem Predictions thread. That's what supporting a team is about. i wonder wher you'd put villa if you were to partake in that thread I'd say that Newcastle, Spurs, Villa, Everton, and Portsmouth (note the absence of Citeh) are entirely interchangeable in terms of predicted finish, there's really too little between them, and what little there is, it is far too early to be predicting how things are likely to turn out.

I like to see that even the most hardened arsenal fans are unbiased. Isn't that what football is partly about, though? Staunch, partisan behaviour which flies in the face of all evidence? We're all as bad as each other at it. Witness how many people are predicting a top 4 finish for Newcastle in the Prem Predictions thread. That's what supporting a team is about.

Too early to judge Carson this season - he's only played three league matches (you, Fulham, Chelsea), and had to make about three saves in total. Torres has impressed me an awful lot. I agree with Madras, he's got a lot more hustle and bustle about him than I expected for a Spanish striker. I said after our first game that I didn't think Liverpool would win the league, based on the chances they'd fluffed against us, but have been impressed with them since. I certainly think this is the best chance they've had for a long time. Closer to home Ashley Young and (surprised really) Nigel Reo-Coker. For you, Milner. Elsewhere, am impressed with Bale, and Craig Gordon (in the face of adversity etc).