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35m clearly something shady going on here.

How good do you want our fifth choice CM to be? Particularly given that PSR apparently has a permanent chokehold on our spending.

I just think it’s dumb to sell a cheap, local, homegrown player who would probably been happy to stay here for at least a few years even if he isn’t starting many games, when we’ll inevitably have to spend more than 10m to replace his squad spot at some point. It’s probably the least bad option we had, but horrible planning to be in this position in the first place.

If these were the prices we got when we were staring down the barrel of a points deduction in 48 hours, I think it’s fair to assume that we would have gotten more in an open market with some leverage. It’s not necessarily a problem that we had to sell these players. The problem is that we put ourselves in a negotiating position where we absolutely had to.

Hard to avoid the conclusion that somebody had a serious fuck-up with the calculations last season and deserves to be sacked. If this is how much this PSR thing is going to impact the club, then we really need an entire team of accountants running the numbers full time to ensure this doesn’t happen again.

Guaranteed to become Messi now but oh well, if we had to sell somebody this is probably the least bad result.

Last bit of hope for the season well and truly disposed of

Just to keep everyone's expectations reasonable, we are 100% going to agree on a number for him at some point, and it will be undisclosed so both sides can save face. We may be contractually entitled to let him rot, but sophisticated parties will typically work something out in these situations, no matter how acrimonious.

To be fair, Howe is a little self-interested here. By necessity, this will result in him having more influence on transfer dealings.

https://x.com/korfootballnews/status/1759634691257475514?s=46&t=aPX7HF03TLnujCUroFqbcQ This is a viral joke specifically created to drive me insane. It has to be

I imagine we would have put some extremely onerous terms for release in his contract given that we got him essentially the same way so we know he’s the type that’s always looking for the next step up.

Ashworth: “hear me out boss, I’ve got a genius plan that will fix our FFP problem, but you’re not going to like it…”

Objectively, can’t really fault someone for taking a step up in their career when offered the opportunity. Subjectively, I hope he develops chronic, explosive, and unfixable diarrhea.

I distinctly remember posting at the beginning of the season that we had such luxury of depth that Gordon could afford to run his bollocks off for 70 minutes knowing that good players would be there to replace him if he got tired. What an idiot I was

I wonder if we'll ever get to the level of absurdity of American sports where it's considered "unsportsmanlike" to celebrate a goal too hard.

What is he even angry about? that we're happy that we won a football game?

To be fair, commentators often just want the game to be competitive.

Okay never mind, I'm a dummy.

If I understand this amortization stuff correctly, the longer we hold a player, the smaller their book value becomes, which increases our FFP boost when we sell them. So we can afford to let a player go for slightly less in the summer and still get the same benefit since it's all monopoly money for us anyway.

Still convinced that we'll lose this.

I think the pretty obvious problem is that all the clubs who would want our players are operating under the same constraints we are. We need to sell before we buy, but so does everyone else. And there are no buyers. The Saudi League is the way around that, but as others have discussed in this thread, there are still human beings involved, and if it doesn't work it doesn't work. And frankly I don't mind us steering clear of selling players there anyway given the obvious conflict of interest.

Damnit, I keep forgetting that these fuckers are good now.

Maybe it's the masochistic NUFC fan in me but I think it would be a lot less fun if we could just spend infinite money every window. It's a good thing that ownership is being forced to think about building sustainably and growing the club's commercial infrastructure instead of just going out and buying Robinho. The Saudis (hopefully) won't be there to bankroll everything forever.

I'm sure we could figure something out at backup RB in the summer if we have to. I just don't think it makes sense to have Trippier blocking Livarmento's ascent to the starting role next season.

We're never going to get this much money for him again and we were probably going to move him on in the summer anyway. Given the reality where we are this season, it makes sense.