Wandy

Well done for bringing this up. And it’s absolutely right to say that the lack of atmosphere is one of the most pressing issues at the club that needs urgent addressing. No matter how much the media pipe us off and tell us how good we are, the simple fact is that for most games the atmosphere is woeful, bar the odd moments in a game. And even though it’s great what Wor Flags do, those flags add nothing to the atmosphere once kick off starts. So much of the damage that Ashley did to the club is being repaired. But the silence of SJP needs addressing. It’s not a bear pit anymore and it needs to be. With how things are going on the field right now the place should be rocking at every game but for the most part it’s like a library. And it IS depressing to witness.

They are raging tonight. Absolutely apoplectic.

The cunts are going to beat at us at Wembley aren't they.

Loved his aggression tonight, he’s fully adapted to the English game now.

He’s a better finisher than Chris Wood.

Not because they have been better. Just the old miss all of your chances and then suckered by the one goal thing.

Aye this fucker has got 1-0 to Leicester all over it.

Not gonna lie, I'm bricking it for this. Please don't blow it NUFC.

How tiny is Ashworth? Bloody hell.

Congrats for missing the point entirely. You are well within your rights to defend your club and its support etc, that's what the forum is for. But you responded to criticism of SAFC with some ill-judged personal barbs. Stick to opinions and you'll do fine on here. But this is a NUFC forum and you are a SAFC fan and, despite the current gulf in fortunes, we are still fierce local rivals. You are inevitably going to get some light-natured stick as part of your initiation process.

But you are going on about antagonism, when he was doing it after only 11 posts today. This just backs up what I find all the time with SAFC fans....they can dish it out but cannot take it back.

You are whining on about personal abuse yet just choose to ignore his personal digs cos he's a new poster, bless him. All that has happened here is people have made some critical remarks about SAFC and asked some probing questions about them. Fucking hell, I even said to him that their future looks quite rosy now.

No, you have responded to opinions with some personal barbs. You don't like those opinions? Tough shit, that's what a forum is for. You haven't shaken off the stench of RTG I'm afraid. Its a classic trait of that shithole to respond to an opinion with personal attacks. You are less than 30 posts in and are at it already.

If anything, it's Teddylad who has done the goading since he got here today. See the stuff I quoted above. The rest of us have just put a few hard-to-bear facts about his club to him.

Skunkers was just one gigantic, hilarious piss take where nothing could escape it's wrath. The in-joke was that the place basically mocked itself. Wish it was still around, it was class.

This is definitely an issue like. And it's basically because it's impossible for any NUFC fan to have a civilised debate on RTG without being subjected to a torrent of abuse, therefore any Mackem posting on here for the first time will inevitably take the brunt for all of the bullshit that is written about NUFC over there. If this fella can make it through the initial shitstorm I'm confident he will be as welcome on here as the likes of Brummie etc. But he's still gonna have to get through that shitstorm. And, as has been pointed out, nobody has been abusive. Note though that he's only about 20 posts in and he's already been resorting to personal digs....."Why do you have such a chip on your shoulder?"...."Your are very sensitive"...."Are you on glue?". Not a great way to ingratiate yourself on a forum.

Tend to agree. But on the flipside we would have played a full strength team if we were playing them.

I was gonna say that but just couldn't be arsed. The idea that even a tiny proportion of our support will want Howe sacked any time soon is utter bollocks. People need to stop basing their judgements on Twitter arseholes.

Fair enough. You may have noticed that all of my comments have been about what has gone on at SAFC in the recent past. With regards to their future though I have no idea what will happen next, but I can see why fans will now be feeling some optimism after crawling out of the biggest hole in their history. Fans run on hope and there does seem to be some down there now, and there's little reason why they can't imitate what Brentford are doing right now, if ran correctly. But if you don't go up either this season or next then it might take a lot longer than you think or hope for. Just look at how long Sheffield Wednesday have been down there for now.

I'm not into answering questions indirectly bud. Ross should have been given another full season IMO, I think he would have taken you up at the 2nd attempt. So what happens if Mowbray finishes in the bottom half of the table this season? Do you stick or twist again? Also...and not fishing here, genuinely curious...why do you think Neal left to go to Stoke, if things are looking so rosy at SAFC? It's not like Stoke are a bigger club.

You haven't asked me any questions actually. Since you are asking though....Grayson, Ross & Parkinson should have been given more time. I actually agreed with the Johnson sacking though as it was clear that he would have fucked up in the playoffs again. Neal was an inspired appointment but the guy turned out to be either a snake, or astute, depending on how the next 5 months plays out. Mowbray I'm not sure of, he's clearly a solid manager but you need to get promoted this year under him or it wont happen at all (under him) IMO.

Just answer questions and keep away from the personal stuff eh? Classic RTG tactic that, lol. For what its worth, I am not a SAFC hater, taking the local rivalry aside. But the idea that their support is blameless in their demise over the last 7 years is delusional in the extreme.

I'd say there's a difference between being sacked purely on results and being sacked to a backdrop of outright abuse. I can only remember NUFC fans doing that to the three that I mentioned.

Agreed.

It's not an agenda at all, it's looking at plain facts. If you can't see that going through so many managers in such a short space of time is not a worrying statistic then there's nothing more that I can say.