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could be wrong but didn't they have the worst start in PL history? from that point they've fought to within a win of getting out of the bottom 3 they look like they can give anyone a game at home as well, players and crowd always seem up for it there away form will be key

is this barkley lad in with a sniff of the WC? seems to me hodgson would be miles better served by sacking off all the dead weight dross we carry and take the likes of barkley, ravel morrison and whoever else with wilshere at the forefront they'll crash and burn, but that's happening anyway, might as well give these kids a shot imho

suppose it's kind of fortunate that tiote didn't get wind of certain posters and their scathing analysis of him as a footballer otherwise he'd be off somewhere flipping fucking burgers rather than playing a pivotal role in our good season

if he wins the FA cup i have a feeling their opinions might soften somewhat like

also this is nonsense if he manages to put the mackems to the sword in the next derby, and we maintain decent form to the end of the season then it puts the record straight for me tbh he'll have then had an average season, a great season, a catastrophic season, and then potentially another very good one

nothing to do with it being a right because we're newcastle, people were saying last year he was chronically mismanaging the quality football players he had at his disposal to the point where we came close to being relegated...lots of us believed that with the talent he had we should have been pushing to be where we are this season, most people also accepted the injuries hurt us badly so doing as well as we currently are would have been unlikely but he brought so much of last season on himself, it was unreal if this season has proven anything, it's that those of us who were saying this were correct and the people who were speculating that the foreigners weren't up to it etc. were very wrong

He belittles this club time and time again - that makes what he says incredibly important in my eyes. You can believe what you like, but I find it very hard to believe that what he's like in public is different to what he's like in the changing room. I really can't see him standing in public and telling us how we can't compete with other teams and how we're lucky to have players like Cabaye, then walk into the changing room and proclaim "Howay lads, we can beat anyone!" his negativity in words and deeds certainly had an influence on the players last season i'd suggest

8th

His luck ran out.

None of those teams will roll over, and aren't guaranteed wins. Of those teams, our results at home we have played 5 of them and won 2, drew 2, lost 1. that's 10 fucking games, if they won them all it's still only 30 points....i'd say a best case for a team in their position would be to take 15-20 points so they'll need to start picking up a few wins away from home, preferably against sides down there with them it'll be tight, they'll get results against some of these teams but i don't think enough...conversely as we know they've got a rough set of away fixtures in there as well tight for me, still have a feeling they'll sneak it somehow

Cajun, the entire course of the game changed in a few seconds, a game we were really struggling in. What changed the course of the game were things outwith our control, such as self implosion of their players. What changed the course of the game was fortunate for us, no question about it. What happened after that had nothing to do with luck.

There's a reason the saying "better a lucky manager than a good one" exists. We've had good managers at the club who rarely got a lucky break (Keegan, Robson) and we have a manager of debatable ability who gets a decent chunk of luck, fortune, decisions... whatever you want to look at. I'm all for it mind, hope he's lucky all the way to the FA Cup, we've had enough shit luck tbh.

Exactly bimpy

We've generally started games in an attacking manner, why would Pardew suddenly decide not to against Stoke? I saw a lot of lax play going back and forward, I took it more as a lack of focus than something tactical. Same shit being spouted during the 5th season when we couldn't attack teams like stoke at home properly. If it's the players fault in this case then, do they take all the credit when we put in a good shift away home? I believe as the manager he's responsible for it all, not just what you pick and choose. Erm wasn't Stoke at home one of our best performances of that season, Cabaye through ball to Cisse etc, 3-0 Howay man, "like" Stoke, teams that come to sit deep for a point hoping we slip up and give them more. I know i was being flippant sorry, i know exactly where you're coming from. Pardew really is a strange manager, we can be brilliant and awful all in the same 90 minutes. It has been better lately tbf. It has aye, very much so. I just can't understand how people can't see we struggle at home vs these types of teams consistently. I genuinely don't believe he knows how to open up a team that do it.

We've generally started games in an attacking manner, why would Pardew suddenly decide not to against Stoke? I saw a lot of lax play going back and forward, I took it more as a lack of focus than something tactical. Same shit being spouted during the 5th season when we couldn't attack teams like stoke at home properly. If it's the players fault in this case then, do they take all the credit when we put in a good shift away home? I believe as the manager he's responsible for it all, not just what you pick and choose. Erm wasn't Stoke at home one of our best performances of that season, Cabaye through ball to Cisse etc, 3-0 Howay man, "like" Stoke, teams that come to sit deep for a point hoping we slip up and give them more.

We've generally started games in an attacking manner, why would Pardew suddenly decide not to against Stoke? I saw a lot of lax play going back and forward, I took it more as a lack of focus than something tactical. Same shit being spouted during the 5th season when we couldn't attack teams like stoke at home properly. If it's the players fault in this case then, do they take all the credit when we put in a good shift away home? I believe as the manager he's responsible for it all, not just what you pick and choose.

I think, and already agreed, that the 11 was right. I just don't think he got anything else right, something about the whole approach was off. As stated it was evident that we weren't flooding forward to support attacks from midfield and making them worry about us enough. If you're going to play the team he played then when fullbacks or anyone else gets wide there should be 2-3 players bursting through the middle at home vs the likes of Stoke. But yeah, nothing pardew can do about that, apparently.

s*** performances... here brett, fuck you and your constant dodgy quoting to make points the above edited version, as you well fucking know, was about how we we find it hard to break down teams at home who come to shut up shop west ham, fulham, hull, norwich, west brom, stoke (i left out southampton, liverpool, chelsea as they play more expansive games) so there's 6 of our 9 home games - aside from post-sendings off stoke how many good performances were put in in those games? be honest....cp40's putting us in the keegan/robson bracket here man, how do you think their teams would have done trying to break down those 6 sides? as for cp40's other point i'm happy and enjoying it, don't see why we can't talk about it like I thought I was clearly putting this team 3rd behind keegan and robson, by saying. this is the third best wev'e been. I also said, and its a fact that cant be argued against, in terms of winning something this team has the potential to surpass those. by the sheer fact they did not, and this team is still entering competitions. Not disputing that, just saying that you'd imagine the 3rd best setup in what 30 years would be capable of not struggling every single fucking time an average team comes up to defend. Parallels with the 5th finish are incredible, i. e. results vs. performances at home.

That's what I saw too. I know I don't like Pardew but I'm not going to accept that this will blind my ability to rationally view a match. I quite like the chancing cunt to be honest, I certainly don't hate the guy as some do, as you say though I can separate that from what I see during the games.

s*** performances... here brett, fuck you and your constant dodgy quoting to make points the above edited version, as you well fucking know, was about how we we find it hard to break down teams at home who come to shut up shop west ham, fulham, hull, norwich, west brom, stoke (i left out southampton, liverpool, chelsea as they play more expansive games) so there's 6 of our 9 home games - aside from post-sendings off stoke how many good performances were put in in those games? be honest....cp40's putting us in the keegan/robson bracket here man, how do you think their teams would have done trying to break down those 6 sides? as for cp40's other point i'm happy and enjoying it, don't see why we can't talk about it like

what is the opinion of the pen/sending off? looked like a pile of shit to me

beardsley's vision was the thing that sets them miles apart imho

Seriously? Don't see it like that at all. Then remove the knobhead Tan out of the equation. Based on footballing results alone he was always a candidate for sacking

you talk shit, get called out, then let's move on aye

Yet he's seemingly found away to get 18 points this season at home so he's clearly breaking defences down somewhere picking up that many points. Same tally as Everton at home. awful, just truly fucking awful