Kaizero

It does once you fucking stop thinking it’s a political comparison. It’s the «brand» of a competing entity being displayed on the uniform of the «brand» you are representing. The comparison is a general statement regarding what I am disliking, not a statement about the reason for why Shaqiri put it there in the first place. The comparison doesn’t work if I was saying displaying a PSG logo or an Adidas logo was a political statement. But that’s bonkers, and not at all what i’m trying to say. Once more, with feeling: - I don’t want players with multiple nationalities to do something like Shaquri did, be it for pride, political reasons or due to being dumb. - I realize Shaqiri put the flag there for political readons. I do dislike that. However, that’s not the general argument I’m making. I’m saying it shouldn’t be allowed in general, be it for dumb reasons, pride or political reasons. - The comparison I made was to examplify the idiocy of someone doing what Shaqiri did if it was done in a different setting, to show why my argument is valid. That he did it for political reasons does not change the fact it’s dumb. The comparison is intended to showcase the dumbness of it by showing the same scenario in a non-political setting, hence showing why it shouldn’t be allowed - for dumbness, pride or political reasons.

It's literally not. It's wearing the "logo" of a competing club/nation whilst representing another, because you claim affinity towards them. You could even bring it into the world of business, with someone employed at Nike wearing some Adidas gear as well as his Nike gear on official business because they quite like Adidas. If you're actively representing something, you're representing that. Show respect. Of course, the political statement is nowhere near the same. But again, that's not at all what I'm fucking arguing. Jesus christ. I just don't want players put other flags on their fucking shit when they're representing another country. HBA having a PSG badge on his socks is kind of different... this is political, so your anology is daft. There is no comparison sorry. I do agree mind, players shouldn’t bring politics into sport, especially when they don’t tend to practice what they preach outside of it. Out of interest where do you stand on players praying to Allah or God before, during or after a match? The comparison is perfect, man I am not arguing a political side, I am arguing against blending "brands" when you're officially representing one "brand", so for my argument it works. You're applying it to a different argument - a political one, where it does not work (or at least not as well). You changing the application of the analogy doesn't make it not work for its original purpose. They can be as religious as they want. Again, my argument isn't political. I understand Shaqiri put it there as a political statement (a shit one at that), but I'm not arguing against the politicalness of it - even though I do disagree with bringing politics like that into the World Cup - I am arguing against the general idea of players putting another nations flag on their equipment when they're officially representing another nation. It shouldn't be allowed because it's downright stupid, no matter if it's a political reason or just because they appreciate their other nationality. If you've elected to represent a certain nation, when you're representing that nation you should leave your other nation / its politics at home. When you're not officially representing that nation, do whatever the fuck you want. Fly whatever flag you want in your house. Do interviews about the politics of your other nation. Buy condoms with your other nations flag on and fuck girls from the nation you represent on the field. Who the fuck cares. Just don't fucking mix and match when on official business. It’s not like, if it was a brand aye, but it’s not, it’s a political statement so again it’s a daft comparison. I do agree with a lot of what you’re saying mind, I just don’t see why you would compare this to a random French player wearing socks displaying the badge of his club. Anyway... Because I’m arguing against the concept of this possibly becoming a normal thing now many players have dual nationalities. Hence the comparison works for what I’m arguing.

Never been so disappointed in fireworks my entire life. Had been so hyped up, and in the end the shit fireworks you can buy for a tenner for new year’s over here were miles better.

I was celebrating the 4th of July in LA last year. It was shit. The fireworks were shit. The drinks were shit. The bro-people were shit. Dear god the entire fucking day was shit, and traffic was somehow worse than normal.

Threw himsel to the ground without being touched - twice. Horrid attempts, Neymar would be proud

Hate the way you use the language. Think about it makes us feel, the way Americans ruin our language. I’m with the Yanks on this one. We learned British English in school over here, but my god, American English is just so much simpler and better. English 2.0

If Maguire wasn’t such a cheating cunt you guys would have been angels compared to Colombia last night. As he was a cunt though, you guys were only like, normal compared to Colombia.

That's a terrible fucking song, nostalgia and jingoism be damned. You're where Bowie is from and that's what you made and repeat. Fucking Howay Sweden. I’m not even English and that song makes me want to join a massive sing-a-long. It’s great.

Utter madness. Celtic would be. Maybe, just maybe. Actually, no. They'd probably be in the lower half at best.

Imagine how good you'd be if you had a proper football man, though...

It's literally not. It's wearing the "logo" of a competing club/nation whilst representing another, because you claim affinity towards them. You could even bring it into the world of business, with someone employed at Nike wearing some Adidas gear as well as his Nike gear on official business because they quite like Adidas. If you're actively representing something, you're representing that. Show respect. Of course, the political statement is nowhere near the same. But again, that's not at all what I'm fucking arguing. Jesus christ. I just don't want players put other flags on their fucking shit when they're representing another country. HBA having a PSG badge on his socks is kind of different... this is political, so your anology is daft. There is no comparison sorry. I do agree mind, players shouldn’t bring politics into sport, especially when they don’t tend to practice what they preach outside of it. Out of interest where do you stand on players praying to Allah or God before, during or after a match? The comparison is perfect, man I am not arguing a political side, I am arguing against blending "brands" when you're officially representing one "brand", so for my argument it works. You're applying it to a different argument - a political one, where it does not work (or at least not as well). You changing the application of the analogy doesn't make it not work for its original purpose. They can be as religious as they want. Again, my argument isn't political. I understand Shaqiri put it there as a political statement (a shit one at that), but I'm not arguing against the politicalness of it - even though I do disagree with bringing politics like that into the World Cup - I am arguing against the general idea of players putting another nations flag on their equipment when they're officially representing another nation. It shouldn't be allowed because it's downright stupid, no matter if it's a political reason or just because they appreciate their other nationality. If you've elected to represent a certain nation, when you're representing that nation you should leave your other nation / its politics at home. When you're not officially representing that nation, do whatever the fuck you want. Fly whatever flag you want in your house. Do interviews about the politics of your other nation. Buy condoms with your other nations flag on and fuck girls from the nation you represent on the field. Who the fuck cares. Just don't fucking mix and match when on official business.

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I'm not letting it go until FIFA bans it so more people don't start doing it It's gonna become a fucking trend and this will be my constant emotional state:

Even the redneckiest Trump voters probably smell better than the Branks.

I think a critical detail that's being lost in all this is that I'm not trying to make a comment/statement about the intricacies of the Balkans. I just don't want a Nike employee to wear Adidas to work.

It's literally not. It's wearing the "logo" of a competing club/nation whilst representing another, because you claim affinity towards them. You could even bring it into the world of business, with someone employed at Nike wearing some Adidas gear as well as his Nike gear on official business because they quite like Adidas. If you're actively representing something, you're representing that. Show respect. Of course, the political statement is nowhere near the same. But again, that's not at all what I'm fucking arguing. Jesus christ. I just don't want players put other flags on their fucking shit when they're representing another country.

That's not the issue at all though. It's in no way what I'm arguing, ffs. I'm saying no player should play a national game with flags on their equipment other than the flag(s) of the nation they're representing, because: 1. It's not the country they're playing for. 2. It could create unnecessary political issues, like in this situation, where Serbia were fuming. I fully support the independence of Kosovo, just FYI. My issue is that you represent the nation you represent - or the one you've chosen to represent, that's it. You can feel proud of being multinational as much as you want, but when you represent your country (chosen country or not) you shouldn't be allowed to put other flags on your shit. Serbs in general are horrid, mind. Mitro's the exception. Went to their "Museum of Warfare" in Belgrade three years ago, multiple floors with stuff from 10.000 BC and onwards, but nothing from the 90s

Again, it's not about the bonkers nature of the balkans. I'd be equally enraged if it was a Norwegian playing with a Swiss flag on one of his boots. Or a Swiss playing with a Norwegian flag on his boot, for that matter. Hell, if it was the same situation as Shaqiri - but Norway and not Kosovo - seeing a Norwegian flag on his boot would probably have me rage so much I'd endanger myself.

France, Brazil, Russia and England through to the semis I think.

Anyway, to summarize to avoid further confusion: - I don’t think players should be allowed to have things representing other nations on their equipment when it’s not the country they are currently representing. I think it should be a universal rule for national team equipment. - Not a fan of the political celebration because it’s unecessarily offensive for a footy game. - Think Shaquiri is a dick for holding both Switzerland and Kosovo hostage in 2016 over captaincy. Kosovo begging him to represent them, offering captaincy up, yet him still continuing with Switzerland - and then having the gall to put a Kosovo flag on his equipment when playing for Switzerland.

We’d be shit if we didn’t have dual nationals. I love them.

Not the same as playing with another flag on your equipment, though I’m not a fan of the political implications in a football match - but they got fined. However, imagine Ben Arfa playing with a PSG logo on ‘cause he grew up a PSG fan. Fuck off is it anything like that all. It's a very complex geopolitical situation that resulted in war and conflict for many years and still ongoing new politically with Serbia not recognising Kosovo. Comparing that to having another club badge on your boots man. Fucking hell. It has nothing to do on anyone’s equipment. That’s the point. I’m not discussing the intricacy of Balkan here. I’m saying no matter if you play for Switzerland, Kosovo or Curacao, nothing in your equipment should reflect another country.

Not the same as playing with another flag on your equipment, though I’m not a fan of the political implications in a football match - but they got fined. However, imagine Ben Arfa playing with a PSG logo on ‘cause he grew up a PSG fan. It’s just disrespectful and dumb. You’ve made a choice about who to represent, whatever you feel otherwise has no place on your equipment.

FWIW, let’s also not forget Shaquiri publicly threatened to declare for Kosovo at the time if he was not made captain / promised captaincy in the future.