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gah....what the f*** man...confused the hell out of me.

The thing with Keegan is, he only did well when he had the players fit. As soon as Oba and Fat Arse Aussie Man came back, we were a totally dfferent team. It's the same with Kinnear I feel. When Oba, Beye, Barton, etc. are fit it's generally been good results. When this has not been the case, it's been dreadful.

It's ridiculous that we had to field our 5th choice striker and a midfielder as our strikeforce for the majority of this game. I know folks complain about squad depth, but that's just ludicrous.

Newcastle have only managed to win two of their 22 Premier League games without Obafemi Martins since he joined the club in the summer of 2006. Copied that stat from the other thread. We really do need this one back. Hope Barton's injury is short term, because we look 10x better with Martins (WMD) and Joey inthe team.

So....why aren't Xisco/Lovenkrands on the pitch? Jonas should have started to begin with. But when you have a striker go off at 1-0 down....you surely should put another on.

Will be watching Marseille instead of this, but good luck to the boys today. I think Coloccini will do very well in midfield. I however am very concerned about the back line. Edgar....may God have mercy on your beautiful soul. I just don't think he is a player for this level. Let's hope this is like that game against United two years ago, where we had nothing left but managed to get a an amzing point, or maybe today even all three.

I'm not saying I wouldn't have Veloso at Newcastle. He'd be an obvious improvement. But I do think he'd be a poor signing for 10-12 million pounds.

One of my favorite "completely legal" places to watch matches online has just posted this message on their homepage: "Because of pending legal proceedings, _____ has removed all links in the following competions: Elitserien - SM-Liga - NHL - Swedish Allsvenskan - Italian Serie A - English Premier League - Dutch Eredivisie. Once a judgment has been given, we will notify you of the outcome." This is terrible, it really is. I'll find another "completely legal" way of watching football matches, but still it's not a good development.

Butt is a ridiculous exception though. I'd take any starting midfielder from any team in the top six leagues in Europe (England, Italy, Spain, France, Germany, Russia) over the tragedy that is Nicky Butt. I really would. I do think there are many better DM's in the world than Veloso who could be bought for 10 million pounds.

Pretty sure Jermaine Jenas (Da Jenious) had several England caps by that age as well. While Jermaine is a decent player, he is certainly no worldbeater. I think we should probaly judge players based on their talent rather than their pedigree, dave.

yep this is what i heard too. Loads of potential but not living up to it does that not apply to every nigerian player, ever? Well that's a bloody ridiculous statement. And as for this Sunday Stephen, he's Spanish (for the moment anyway) If this guy ever gets his act together, I think he is a very similar player to Lassana Diarra. He has been groomed as DM, but I don't think he has the discipline or the mentality for this role. He's quite quick is a pretty powerful runner. Also, he has good dribbling and decent passing ability. At his best when he is surging forward. If he plays to his full capabilities than he's absolutely perfect for the Premiership, but he has not been doing that of late.

Wow, that is an amazing statistic. Truly scary. As many have said, Oba is our most important outfield player right now. Is it true though? I know we beat Spurs without him, but did we really only win one match during his injuries this season and the ACN last year?

mackems.gif mackems.gif mackems.gif mackems.gif Being fair KD, he was good tonight I thought, I don't rate the two mentioned either really. I think it's time to put a bid in for Kranjcar. Have you seen Lennon this season? he's been immense. When Kaka says that Pennant is a better "footballer" then him, i somewhat see his point (altough i completely disagree with it), but his point becomes void when he also states that he's also a better "footballer" then Milner. By using the term footballer, i assumed he was basing his judgement on technique alone but then Milner is twice the player Pennant is, when it comes to that. I am now 100% convinced you don't even watch football games. Milner better technique than Jermaine Pennant. God have mercy on you for such profanity! :lol: That is a shcocking statement. Milner has been superb the last 3 or 4 games for us. Read into that what you will. Lennon has been superb for us this whole season but Kaka says we need to "watch what they do on the field" instead of playing Fifa. Going by the FACT that Pennant has done diddly squat for a long time now, im pretty sure Kaka is playing Fifa right now. KD let me be very honest with you. You seem to take things too personally and feel this need to be super loyal to anything Tottenham which is cool up to a certain point. I'm not saying Lennon is useless and neither am I saying he hasn't been good for you. Pennant has had his issues but when he is actually on that pitch playing he is better than both Lennon and Milner in my opinion and has far more to his game than both. I support Newcastle United right, but I wouldn't argue that Nicky Butt was half decent because he's s***. So is Alan Smith, so is Duff ,etc etc. Facts are facts. Except Jermaine Pennant is s***.

Pennant is getting way too much credit here. He's a 26 year old footballer who accomplished literally nothing in his career. Despite being "better" than Lennon and Milner he has done a significant amount less than these younger players.

BBC described it as a typical Heskey goal, funny he hardly ever scores. Pompey were having the run of play, Villa send a long ball up. Agbonlahor manages to win a header over Campbell and Heskey is through.

I'm loving this Kanu and Crouch partnership. 6 foot 5 and 6 foot 7. The two gangliest players in the history of football. Hope Villa get beat by the way. I know it's a nice story, but I don't really think they are an exceptional team.

Can't see why Fanni or M'Bia would want to leave Rennes to come here at the moment. (Unless the wages we are offering are that much higher I guess)

This. The thing is I like Tevez, but Saviola is a better goal scorer and much more polished overall. Tevez is quality but sometimes has a tendency to slip into a bit of a captain caveman mode. Too much cowabunga and not enough guapa. What are you basing this on, btw. Tevez has consistantly created goals and danger ever since he caught fire with West Ham a few seasons back. During the same period of time, Saviola has gathered splinters in his arse. Maybe 5 years ago when Saviola was at Barca and Tevez was at Boca Juniors you could claim this, but not now.

I mean a player who scores goals from the wing and is adept at crossing it in. The roles that Duff ( ) and Robben filled for them. Still haven't been replaced. Jonas is a very good player, but his style of play would not solve Chelsea's issues.

What motivation would Veloso have to come to Bolton? It's like sending Kevin Davies off to Barcelona. Seems illogical.

Jonas would be the last player Chelsea need, they actually need the opposite of Jonas. I'd be surprised if they actually wanted him.

Saviola's last good year though was 2004. It's 2009 now. From a practical standpoint, I don't think it is good to make him one of our hughest earners. I rather we got someone else.

I think it's more to do with them being dso obscene with their offers.I mean lord they're offering 4 times the world record fee and double the world's top wages. Their actions have taken this insanity to a whole new level. If they continue in this fashion, they will either cause aserious economic downfall in football, or a massive change in rules and regulations by Fifa or Uefa.

Because he can answer part of the midfield puzzle, and he's young, and it's not as though he will have a high transfer fee or wages. How can he answer anything if he doesn't play again this season? I'm assuming the club will be able to sort him out before May. Even if not though, I don't see the problem in bringinghim here. There's obviously a worst case scenario here, but also the chance that we will have found a real player. I just think it's worth the risk.

Because he can answer part of the midfield puzzle, and he's young, and it's not as though he will have a high transfer fee or wages.