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Everything posted by Mattoon
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Even wrote Arsenal twice ffs Henry out, Shearer in? Did Shearer play for Soton in the PL? No he left for Blackburn in 92 when the PL started
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FFS I give up
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Final offering, can't be bothered to mess with it anymore: Jussi Jaaskelainen ?? (Bolton/West Ham/Wigan) Virgil van Dijk ?? (Southampton/Liverpool) Vincent Kompany ?? (Man City) Lucas Radebe ?? (Leeds) Juninho Paulista ?? (Middlesborough) Luca Modric ?? (Tottenham) Gordon Strachan ??????? (Leeds/Coventry) Mesut Ozil ?? (Arsenal) Cristiano Ronaldo ?? (Manchester United) Didier Drogba ?? (Chelsea) Alan Shearer ??????? (Blackburn/Newcastle United)
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Shearer played for Southampton so you can't have him and VVD. Southampton literally ruined half the talent pool McGrath played for Man U pre-PL era. Damn it, I wanted Shearer in my team too but it's too much juggling to change that now, I'd need to replace Robert!
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Shearer played for Southampton so you can't have him and VVD. Southampton literally ruined half the talent pool
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Jussi Jaaskelainen ?? Bolton/West Ham/Wigan Virgil van Dijk ?? Southampton/Liverpool Nemanja Vidic ?? Man Utd Vincent Kompany ?? Man City Lucas Radebe ?? Leeds Juninho Paulista ?? Middlesborough Luca Modric ?? Tottenham Laurent Robert ?? Newcastle/Portsmouth Mesut Ozil ?? Arsenal Didier Drogba ?? Chelsea Jamie Vardy ??????? Leicester
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Scunny fans glad he’s gone. One of methvans mates Was on the board of the efl panel which ratified the Donald buyout of the club. Relegated and failed at every club he’s been at Named J Rodwell First comment is someone wants to buy the club but vaulted at the asking price. They are taking this very well. The only thing I took from that article is that Scunthorpe have a much more professional system in place to run a football club than Newcastle Hardly the benchmark is it? It's like saying Mother Theresa was a better babysitter than the McCanns
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Loving the dig at Keys at the end there pretty much on the ball that, good piece
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Ugh, I've just become a "support da teem" guy haven't I?
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Its not fair that anyone expects us to either, supporters are too diverse to pull in one direction.
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BeIn need the PL more than the PL need BeIn
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I tend to agree, the highly charged emotions about the morality of this take over will always simmer under the surface, both sides of the fence have strong opinions and neither are wrong except in the eye of the other. We all love NUFC, that at least we can agree on, I just want to love my team again, look forward to Saturdays again and hopefully European nights midweek too in the not to distant future. I'm tired of fighting this club, Ashley is gone, it's been a long and arduous fight and it's taken a lot out of us all, I either accept it for what it is or I walk away for good because it's not healthy. I won't be coming back in this thread because it's been done to death, no one comes out of here a winner. Am I a hypocrite? Maybe, am I an enabler? Probably, am I an NUFC fan that just wants to see a successful team and region? Definitely. I love this forum, I respect a lot of posters opinions on here, I don't think I've ever seen it as split as it is on this subject. I hope we can all find joy in an Ashley-less NUFC together, it would be a shame to lose anyone else.
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"Anyone, anyone, Please anyone but Newcastle"
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[move][glow=red,2,300][/glow][/move] From what I made of that bit, they're thinking about the immediate future, more likely waiting until the season has ended before they look to what is available.
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Its ok to oppose an oppressive regime but also call out blatant agenda driven hypocracy Wullie, they aren't mutually exclusive. I'm not deflecting nor defending but I am sick of the media bias.
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If you don't believe that most of this NUFC media finger wagging is due to it being NUFC then read this article from the Independent: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/manchester-united-sale-saudi-arabia-interest-reports-latest-buy-club-mohammad-bin-salman-a8586866.html?__twitter_impression=true When it's NUFC it's "Sportswashing" when it's MUFC it's "Diversifying their interests to include sport", same group, different team.
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None of them will have the slightest clue who he is. Except maybe Mandy, if she was writing letters to Stifler, I suppose it's possible she might swap convivial texts with Wraith. This is my worry, that they'll have no idea who he is and therefore assume from his large online presence that he holds any kind of value or insight at all, rather seeing him as the weapons-grade, vacuous, bullshit merchant he actually is. And that they'll grant him far more credibility (ie any) than he actually warrants. They'll want to build bridges with supporters, any new owner will have that down as absolute priority. The fear is they'll see this Muppet flapping his lips and his army of faux-sycophants and think he has some holding in that regard. Hopefully Mandy will know better at this point having met the fake funeral tosspot already.
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Great post, couldn't agree more. Absolutely this, it's more than just what happens on the pitch, the club has been hollowed out and mistreated for more than a decade, we need someone that can build a club from scratch and he has all the tools. He has proven also that he can play a more expansive game when he has the tools, he'll never be another Klopp but right now we have to build the foundations for our future and he's the only man that can do it, do it good and do it in a short space of time. BHH
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Just screenshot it and email them saying the link they sent doesn't work and you want to cancel. Should be enough proof. Wanna join my Zoom chat with my Nan later, teach her how to suck an egg? Will she be sucking an egg on screen....? I'm also interested in this...
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Actually you can, and absolutely everybody does. I care more about the morality of the NUFC ownership than I do the Uber ownership. I care more about the wrongdoings of the British state than I do the wrongdoings of the Tajikistan state. Campaigners who dedicate their lives to combating domestic violence care more about domestic violence than they do climate change. No human can possibly dedicate the same level of investment into each and every moral outrage. Picking and choosing is the only option, and if you reject that then you're arguing no-one should ever express any sort of moral concern about any act, which would be perverse. My argument isn't righteous indignation against the world, it's the Saudi side of things, you can't say it's close to home so you will be outraged by this but not about UK Government arms sales, usage of petrol, uber, Twitter, lyft, Snapchat, Deezer, the list goes on, all in use over here and I'll bet most of you if not all have used something on that list. Again, I want to reiterate I'm not defending the Saudis and I'm not saying this is ok, but I'm not about to jump on my moral high horse and vilify NUFC and boycott when I can finally reconnect when I regularly use Twitter, petrol, etc.. and have never been vocal about government involvement. My personal opinion is that I'd be a hypocrite to do so. So you lads would hate to be hypocrites but are happy to continue to support sportswashing of murderous regimes using your own football club? nice one. At least you're not hypocrites. Hows that hypocrisy? No one is advocating supporting the Saudi regime. I'm saying that going to football match is no more supporting the Saudis than say, filling your car full of petrol or any number of other activities. The post you agree with claims hating on the saudi's but still buying petrol is hypocrisy. I'm shocked you both find NUFC being owned by these people more palatable than being seen as a hypocrite. I don't think it's hypocrisy either way. I'm bringing this in here, where it belongs. I want to state again, I don't find "sports washing" palatable, I also don't find targeting NUFC palatable when similar purchases are happening everywhere. I'm not supporting PIF and I'm not calling anyone a hypocrite. I just want to support a successful NUFC again, I have no control over the owners of NUFC, just as I have no control over who supplies my petrol, who's profiteering from my use of Twitter or Uber when I'm in the states, it doesn't mean I accept their practices. As STM said in the other thread, you obviously feel very passionate about this and I applaud you for that, you're entitled to your opinion on this and your feelings on supporting NUFC in its new guise and I get where you're coming from. Maybe this is the catalyst to bring all the other issues to the forefront.
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Actually you can, and absolutely everybody does. I care more about the morality of the NUFC ownership than I do the Uber ownership. I care more about the wrongdoings of the British state than I do the wrongdoings of the Tajikistan state. Campaigners who dedicate their lives to combating domestic violence care more about domestic violence than they do climate change. No human can possibly dedicate the same level of investment into each and every moral outrage. Picking and choosing is the only option, and if you reject that then you're arguing no-one should ever express any sort of moral concern about any act, which would be perverse. My argument isn't righteous indignation against the world, it's the Saudi side of things, you can't say it's close to home so you will be outraged by this but not about UK Government arms sales, usage of petrol, uber, Twitter, lyft, Snapchat, Deezer, the list goes on, all in use over here and I'll bet most of you if not all have used something on that list. Again, I want to reiterate I'm not defending the Saudis and I'm not saying this is ok, but I'm not about to jump on my moral high horse and vilify NUFC and boycott when I can finally reconnect when I regularly use Twitter, petrol, etc.. and have never been vocal about government involvement. My personal opinion is that I'd be a hypocrite to do so.
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Hes not said alot wrong there. I think what annoys me is the concentration on sport. If this journalist has a portfolio of articles on Saudi Arabia and how our government deals with them, then I suppose hes earned the right to talk about it. If his first article on the Saudi regime is related to the owning football clubs, then hes kind of missing the point. I think he's an intelligent Lad and knows all about Saudi Arabia but he's a football journalist...truth hurts doesn't it. Out of the frying pan and into the fire we go... The truth doesnt hurt me whatsoever. :lol: Like I say, our government can deal in arms with the Saudis but I cant enjoy some football which is partially funded by them? Na, fuck off. I absolutely get it, there are moral issues to comprehend here but it does all feel very reactionary and targeted. The Saudi royal family and indeed PIF have majority shareholdings all over the shop and have been building a large portfolio for a number of years. No one is boycotting UBER for example, people are even complaining about Saudi ownership on Twitter, you know the platform that has Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud as one their majority shareholders. This is not a defence, but you can't pick and choose your moral outrages. None of these pieces that are questioning the acquisition are mentioning any of the other issues in the West, most pertinently our own government's involvement with Saudi.
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Samuel is just crying because he's spent so much time up Ashley's ring that he doesn't know a way out. He knows we hate Ashley so he wants to make us squirm a little while long while earning some clicks. All the evidence is contrary to what he says, he's a chancer, a liar and an irrelevance.