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It's honestly like you're talking about a different player whenever you talk about Shelvey. I just don't see what you seem to see as his deficiencies at all, I've never seen anything to back up what you're saying in this league or the PL. When he can be arsed, he's been one of the better midfielders in the Premier League, that happened. And it's the him being able to be arsed that's the weakness in his game for me. 3 v 2 in midfield would be a problem for most midfields that are the 2, but put him 3 v 3, 2 v 2, or 3 v 2 with him in the 3 and him being out-muscled etc wouldn't be something I'd particularly worry about tbh. One of the better players in the Premier League? Seriously? He's bang average at that level with fleeting glimpses of his ability and this is what we have seen here at Newcastle since he signed. He's played very well this season at times, but given his ability he has kind of disappointed in general and in many games he goes missing or is too easily marked out of the game to the point where it seriously effects us. It has nothing to do with being arsed either, he just doesn't have that natural athleticism and stamina nor the mentality needed to go with such assets to dominate a game, to grab it by the scruff of the neck and to impose himself. Space and time and he will play lovely passes and generally look very good on the ball. Cut that off though and he's just an empty shirt floating around with his arms outstretched and his gormless head looking left and right wondering just how he can get into the game. You can't Jon Jo because you don't have it in you and never will. We need to seriously upgrade on him in the summer if we are to do more than plod on. That goes for a few others too, btw. Kind of agree on the whole but the bolded bit is harsh IMO. He was absolutely bossing it near enough every game before his ban. I agree, after a slow start. He is quite easy to mark out of the game. He was superb at home to Birmingham a game I went to, and I was shocked they allowed him all that time and freedom, absolutely shocked because a school kid could tell you how to nullify his game and render our own somewhat impotent.... Again, I don't necessarily disagree but his strong performances against Brighton, Huddersfield and Leeds - all away and against sides canny enough to know how to set up against him - suggest that you're not giving him enough credit IMO.

It's honestly like you're talking about a different player whenever you talk about Shelvey. I just don't see what you seem to see as his deficiencies at all, I've never seen anything to back up what you're saying in this league or the PL. When he can be arsed, he's been one of the better midfielders in the Premier League, that happened. And it's the him being able to be arsed that's the weakness in his game for me. 3 v 2 in midfield would be a problem for most midfields that are the 2, but put him 3 v 3, 2 v 2, or 3 v 2 with him in the 3 and him being out-muscled etc wouldn't be something I'd particularly worry about tbh. One of the better players in the Premier League? Seriously? He's bang average at that level with fleeting glimpses of his ability and this is what we have seen here at Newcastle since he signed. He's played very well this season at times, but given his ability he has kind of disappointed in general and in many games he goes missing or is too easily marked out of the game to the point where it seriously effects us. It has nothing to do with being arsed either, he just doesn't have that natural athleticism and stamina nor the mentality needed to go with such assets to dominate a game, to grab it by the scruff of the neck and to impose himself. Space and time and he will play lovely passes and generally look very good on the ball. Cut that off though and he's just an empty shirt floating around with his arms outstretched and his gormless head looking left and right wondering just how he can get into the game. You can't Jon Jo because you don't have it in you and never will. We need to seriously upgrade on him in the summer if we are to do more than plod on. That goes for a few others too, btw. Kind of agree on the whole but the bolded bit is harsh IMO. He was absolutely bossing it near enough every game before his ban.

Warburton to Forest.

James Linnington is the ref for this

This. Also, it's a poor attempt if it was deliberate, no force in the stamp at all. Aye, it's hyperbolic in the extreme to call it a stamp. He treads on Zlatan's head.

Exactly.

Bournemouth are appealing - rightly so IMO.

Ben Osborn linked again in the Mirror. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-return-nottingham-forests-ben-9989568

So much singing for Paul bloody McShane We were the better side first half and probably should've been ahead at HT but Reading, to their credit, improved in the second and nearly nicked it at the death. McCleary in particular began to cause us a few problems after a quiet first 45. The players looked visibly tired in the latter stages - understandably so - but had we taken the lead in the first half, I think we would've won fairly comfortably. In terms of individual performances, Clark was probably the stand-out. Ritchie was excellent first half but faded later on as we gave up more of the ball; Murphy and Perez also put in good shifts. Gamez was reasonably solid if unspectacular (and takes a good throw-in on a separate note) but fully expect Anita to come back in for him for Fulham. Enjoyed the game though - atmosphere was decent and the Reading fans in the corner closest to our lot were in good voice as well. Echo the sentiments about the Madejski though - getting in and out of the stadium was complete chaos.

They did hit the bar in stoppage time as well to be fair.

It was a brilliant pass, but he's done similar about 10 or more times this season. A few more to come I hope. Aye, his one for Gayle's second in the Norwich home game was even better IMO. Agree with Hans on that pass to Janmaat. Outrageously good. Janmaat didn't even have to break stride.

On a random note, spotted that Shelvey was wearing Copa Mundials today. Respect.

Is that Matt Ritchie being interviewed or Sean Dyche?

Get the fuck in. As professional an away performance you're likely to see.

The fuck was their keeper doing? Absolute gift.

Should be a yellow for Mooy, that.

Come on.

As much of a pen as the first one in fairness.

Fuck sake Shelvey.

Interesting one. Guessing Diame goes to CM with Gayle in the hole?

Gouff coming on.

Perfectly good tackle from Shelvey, that.

Only had it in one hand so no foul.

Colback ffs

Murphy!