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I'm not saying Coloccini will definitely come good, but Evra and Vidic both looked shaky in their first seasons at Man U, imagine if they were playing in a relegation threatened team rather than a team going for the title. As I say its not guaranteed that Colo will come good, but he should definitely be given the chance next season.

No, but he was playing with Shearer and Ferdinand, who were finishing most of the chances. I haven't got any stats but I'd say he was involved in and set up many more goals than Martins ever will. Even if Asprilla wasn't good enough or wasn't consistent enough or whatever it has nothing to do with the fact that Martins isn't good enough at the moment.

Link? I wanna see what they're saying. Swedish forums where people are desperate for creative midfielders. Saying stuff like: "i know Newcastle is a struggling team but have anyone seen Gutierrez, a very creative and handy player" "we should take a look at this Gutierrez guy over at Newcastle, quality player in a bad team" "one of my favourite players in england, he should be playing in a better team" etc etc seems like alot of people in other clubs really rate him, and he is the only player getting praise by commentators and media really. Thanks, I think quite a lot of Man Utd fans rate him as well.

Wouldn't it be Solskjaer he'd have to sit with to discuss that? I don't think he was conducting negotiations during the match Probably managed to contain himself until the game was done. Dowie: "I want that player." Solskjaer: "That's Ronaldo." Dowie: "Who?" Solskjaer: "Cristiano Ronaldo?" Dowie: ""

I think you'll be handed your P45 next week tbh.

Sounds like something David Brent would say.

Butt 8? :/ I can't remember him completing a pass, he was ****, as bad as ever. The time that summed it up for me was when he was given the ball, managed to fall over, tried to pass on the floor and couldn't muster the strength to get it to a teammate. Martins worked harder than Owen? Owen was chasing none stop, Martins just stood in front of his marker the whole game. As for Jonas getting the same rating as Nolan? You sure you haven't made a mistake there? Its opinion mate. Butt misplacing every pass isn't opinion though, its fact. I'm not having a go like, just trying to vent some of my frustration caused by players like Butt.

Really? Ameobi? Over Carroll?

Butt 8? :/ I can't remember him completing a pass, he was ****, as bad as ever. The time that summed it up for me was when he was given the ball, managed to fall over, tried to pass on the floor and couldn't muster the strength to get it to a teammate. Martins worked harder than Owen? Owen was chasing none stop, Martins just stood in front of his marker the whole game. As for Jonas getting the same rating as Nolan? You sure you haven't made a mistake there?

He won't guarantee it, but as long as were aren't in a relegation fight we should get 50,000+ almost every game and quite a few 52,000s. I was thinking about PL, didn't read the thread at all.

He won't guarantee it, but as long as were aren't in a relegation fight we should get 50,000+ almost every game and quite a few 52,000s.

Yup, even the Leazes corner gave up a bit near the end. I can't understand how the people next to the Leazes corner can't pick up on the song, then the people next to them etc. etc.

He left the field to make way for another player.

This guy has a 0% win percentage and we still want him as our manager? How far we have fallen.

Well his goals kept us in the PL last season and might again this season, so that's about £40m in TV money.

Arsenal want him, according to the man himself.

Link? I wanna see what they're saying.

Argument won, well done. Not really, look at the stats for each player in this game and you will see Owen did more. I'm sure of it. Not to mention, Owen "scored" hadn't the linesman been a c***. Martins did not. I was being sarcastic.

Argument won, well done.

Martins hardly any runs at all, he's got so much pace but never uses it. Always stood still waiting for the ball. Neither striker did much but Owen got stuck in at least, Oba didn't.

Owen was easily better than Martins today. Yup.

Having a go at the old board does not equal exonerating the new board. Having a go at Keegan does not equal exonerating Ashley. Having a go at Martins does not equal exonerating Owen. Why this fails to compute for some people on here so often I'll never know. I don't think that's his point mate. I think what Ronaldo is trying to say, is that for all people are berating Martins for not scoring, Owen is far worse yet still in the team. You watch the game today? Owen was battling at least , Oba did **** all. I was just passing on the message. Sorry, directed at Ronaldo then

Having a go at the old board does not equal exonerating the new board. Having a go at Keegan does not equal exonerating Ashley. Having a go at Martins does not equal exonerating Owen. Why this fails to compute for some people on here so often I'll never know. I don't think that's his point mate. I think what Ronaldo is trying to say, is that for all people are berating Martins for not scoring, Owen is far worse yet still in the team. You watch the game today? Owen was battling at least , Oba did **** all.

In the carpark at Concordia (swimming pool) and it can on the radio.