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You can go first Beren What has justifying a transfer fee got to do with how good you are as a player though? That's what the thread is about. That argument is irrelevant. Is Rooney better than Cristiano Ronaldo because he's won more trophies than Ronaldo in the last two years? He's justified his price tag more surely if you're basing it just on trophy wins, hasn't he?

I still would be interested to know what exactly happend on the day we played Leeds in pre-season. It was ok till that day. Joey was even captaining the side in pre-season before Colo was announced captain. Only after the Leeds game he really started against the club on twitter and the day that after he was transfer listed for free. Would really be interested to know that happened behind the scenes that day. Probably he was told he would be transfer listed for free the next day by Llambias/Pardew? Well, as Joey has said, there will be a time and a place to tell it all..... I only wonder when it will finally be. Probably in his authobiography to make some money with it. I think it would be more to do with Barton acting like a spoilt brat when he was taken off set pieces and lost the captaincy. I wouldn't put it past them, but I doubt he would be told he was being released of a free on the day of a game. Surely that happened as a result of what happened on the Saturday. I won't believe he was that angry because he was taken off set pieces - in a friendly - where we probably just wanted to see how Cabaye could do them. I won't believe either that he'd react the way he did because of the captaincy issue, only days after backing Coloccini via twitter and the papers. He's an egotist. I think he's exactly the sort of play who goes in a huff because he's missing out on something.

So Ashley is unhappy with fans getting on his back? Stop making idiotic decisions then! Stop plastering the ground with crap for a start.

I still would be interested to know what exactly happend on the day we played Leeds in pre-season. It was ok till that day. Joey was even captaining the side in pre-season before Colo was announced captain. Only after the Leeds game he really started against the club on twitter and the day that after he was transfer listed for free. Would really be interested to know that happened behind the scenes that day. Probably he was told he would be transfer listed for free the next day by Llambias/Pardew? Well, as Joey has said, there will be a time and a place to tell it all..... I only wonder when it will finally be. Probably in his authobiography to make some money with it. I think it would be more to do with Barton acting like a spoilt brat when he was taken off set pieces and lost the captaincy. I wouldn't put it past them, but I doubt he would be told he was being released of a free on the day of a game. Surely that happened as a result of what happened on the Saturday.

Says a lot about Bruce's man management skills this, doesn't it?

If there's there on loan, surely his wages will remain the same? Sort of defeats the point of playing the Middle East doesn't it? Edit- although Michael makes a good point

It would probably have broken most players legs. It was amazing Colo was unscathed.

I think it will be a few years yet before they think of getting rid. He's young, hasn't even had a full season yet, he'll be given time. Like Hodgson?

You think Llambias does anything Ashley doesn't tell him to do?

Lee Ryder I think, said there would be a club statement and the club would answer questions from the fans.

Can't believe the Journal will print of page of this:

Shorts off?

re: Colo's number, in Argentina 2 is a number for CBs for some reason, different to England.

I don't think its based on the start of the season though. Long-term, De Gea is arguably a good signing.

I'm pretty sure we're not allowed to refuse to pay him while he's fasting. So let's err on the side of caution eh? Don't won't any compo claims diminishing our already small transfer kitty.

Pardew didn't have the bottle to start Sammy or Vuckic against Fulham despite Lovenkrands playing 120mins a few days before. Can't see many chances for them this season unless Pardew changes his opinion.

Llambias just does whatever Ashley tells him. It doesn't matter who is in his position, the result will always be the same.

Scouts rated Erding more highly?

Klose just signed for Lazio didn;'t he?

Odd. I thought you simply had to accept offers that big? The two scenarios are a little different to be fair. How so? Because they won the league? They are in the CL as well so have a bit more money. Plus, Carroll isn't worth £35m, Gotze probably is. Fair enough, haven't seen anything of him bar a few you tube vids. Only seen him a couple of times myself. Going off reputation mainly.

Odd. I thought you simply had to accept offers that big? The two scenarios are a little different to be fair. How so? Because they won the league? They are in the CL as well so have a bit more money. Plus, Carroll isn't worth £35m, Gotze probably is.

Odd. I thought you simply had to accept offers that big? The two scenarios are a little different to be fair.

You'd think so Only if you actually want the transfer to go ahead.

There's something in the Chronicle today about Kadar. He makes four but obviously injuries are a worry.

One of the pictures on the BBC site is that Arsenal banner which says 'who knew Nasri or Fabregas four years ago?' WTF?