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Good. Hope they win it.

It's rubbish in the Europa League how Villarreal play Napoli and Porto played Sevilla. Those four would be good semi finalists.

SHOLA, Best, Lovenkrands, Nolan, Ranger. Forgot about wor Shola.

Best, Lovenkrands, Ranger, Kuqi and Nolan.

Most likely to be booed, we don't like soft player who moan about injuries.

Get used to it. We used to be a club who bought players for large fees, give them massive career fulfilling contracts, and then could never get rid of them. We are now a club who aims for players on lower fees, on lower wages, but with potential to be a hell of a lot better. It is a natural consequence of the second option that we will worry about the players we sign who turn out to be great player, and then leave for bigger and better clubs. Do it consistently enough for a long period of time and you might get lucky and hit the sweet spot between the Arsenal model and the Man Utd model! ...and if you get it wrong a few times, you end up between the Sheffield Wednesday and WBA model...! go the other way and it's leeds and pompey........and us to certain extent. Leeds and Pompey do NOT have our crowd potential or drawing power. Still, we can always settle for second best instead of 3rd best, eh !? Leeds and NUFC's problems were the result of having a complete dickhead in charge instead of only a partial one.. you just don't want to get it do ya ? it doesn't matter what the size of crowds, turnover or prestige of club,'crowd potential or 'drawing power'......if you try to live too far beyond your means you'll end up f***ed. the only difference is the size of the numbers, the premise is the same for all. Just don't want to 'get it'..!? If I and others hadn't wanted to 'Get it' 20 years ago, the club would still have been run by McKeag's family and KK would never have arrived as manager ONCE. never mind twice... I don't need a lesson in economics thanks - you are implying that the club would be 'living beyond its means'by competing for decent signings or trying to keep its best players ; that is a matter of conjecture - do you believe that Kuqui is a decent signing for a club like Newcastle ? Or would Gateshead be a more likely setting for him !? We have sold a young player who, in all likelihood, will play for England for 10 years and win medals with Liverpool - yes, that's right, Liverpool and they WILL win medals despite the envious tripe spouted on here about them because they are ambitious and have rich backers....nobody is saying that NUFC should be signing 35m players but there IS and should be, a balance. Also, any club selling its top players will never prosper - end of... If you don't want to talk Sheff Weds, try Burnley and see how selling best players did for them. NUFC DOES have a big support and only clubs with decent support can be successful over a long period. NUFC has not punched its weight over the years and if you can't(or WON'T) see that, you either haven't supported the club for very long or you have a poor memory recall. Ashley may not be Abramovitch but he COULD back the club a bit better in the market - as could anyone who doesn't blink at losing 1m a shot in casinos..!! Failure to attract or keep good players means that any decent ones left at the club will also want to leave. How can you say the club hasn't been punching above it's weight when you look at the financial side of things before Ashley took over? We were paying Champions League level wages! Any club selling their best players will never proper...? What about Sevilla, as Village Idiot points out? It's all about the right balance, which is difficult to find, tbf. What tripe is spoken about Liverpool as well? Most of it is justified. Head over to one of their forums if you don't like the scousers getting insulted. You have proved your ignorance beyond doubt several times in this post. I don't know how old you are (and frankly care less), but your comments about Liverpool are those of a prize tw-- or someone whose empty can makes the most rattle. They have achieved far more in a few seasons in the 80s than NUFC have done since 1892. If you are unaware of that, and the respect they have in the game as a result of that then you shouldn't be allowed out, never mind be a NUFC fan. After reading your insightful(cough)comments, I wish I HAD been born in the NW of the country, then I could have spent my time laughing at the comments written by 'experts on winning trophies' such as yourself !! After all, you are well placed to give advice after seeing your side trounce the PL time after time - not to mention the many cups since 1969.... IF you had taken the trouble to read the posts leading up to the one you chose to benefit us with your comments upon, you would have seen that I made the point that, prior to Ashley, NUFC was being run by a d--khead, and that is why CL wages were being paid.... And WHY should I be interested in the example of a second rate Spanish club like Sevilla ? What do they have in common with NUFC ? Spain has 2 clubs who are any good - end of....just the same as Scotland except that every so often, someone like Valencia makes a show in the Europa Lge because they have imported some Argies or Brazilians... Glad to be well away from people like you - the good name of NUFC fans is already blackened by similar people and you are in for a rude awakening..unless you are an Ashley troll of course ! Enjoy your success ! You are an absolute moron. I know Liverpool have been successful in the past retard. I didn't say they hadn't, most people hate Liverpool fans because they are delusional souls who seem to think they support the greatest club on earth. I don't why you are trotting out crap like saying I seem think I'm a expert on winning trophies? Where did I state this? I can only assume you are losing your marbles mate. What do Sevilla have in common with Newcastle? It's called a comparison. Look it up. I was comparing the two clubs and showing that a club that has spent millions less than in the past decade or so can still win trophies. You obviously don't even care about trophies like the UEFA Cup and are happy to genuflect only to the scousers and their many major trophy wins. The good name of Newcastle fans is blackened by people like me? You haven't got a clue...I can only assume you are some old man who has lost his marbles because you are talking absolute rubbish. Embarrassing.

Harder to beat, right what are you basing this on We've only lost 3 in 11 under Pardew. I don't think Hughton ever achieved that (in the PL).

What you do mean? I'm supposed to compare individual games to ones in Hughton's reign? I think we are stronger as a team. We look harder to beat and are improving more and more attacking wise. Not to mention that all this has been done without Carroll.

Not responding to your post alone but all the posts in general. Basically people even if Hughton didn't go out there and scout the players himself, he still had the final say on getting them here and played a role in attracting them to the club. By the way some talk on here it's as if he was the anti-christ, however I still remember what he done for this club and we need to give credit where credit is due. Pardew has done a good job so far however, we must not forget the (disgraceful) circumstances in which he came in, though I must stress that although Ashley must be the one to blame for those circumstances, Pardew still had a hand in it. Now he's done well, but he hasn't signed any of his own players (except Kuqi) and as such we should recoginise that Hughton must have had a hand in the dealing bringing Tiote and unifying the team and TBH it does seem as if he could have kept all our major players here as they loved him. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1336641/Newcastle-bring-big-Chris-Hughton-sacking-joke-says-Jose-Enrique.html But I do say that pardew has done a good job, so far, it's just the circumstances in which he came here make me hesitant to be declaring him the Geordie Messiah like some are saying on here. But still a good job so far. Doubt there are many takers on the Geordie Messiah but you might get a bit of action on "has done a good job, so far". I said on here (can't be arsed to look when) that it's a judgement call on whether AP is an upgrade on CH. Based on not very much I happen to think he is. What I'm saying is that on this forum being a Pardew fan seems to be the "in" thing, which is fine, but to say that he's ban upgrade on Hughton is stupid and no-one can actually give any evidence (which you admit so fairs fair) but TBH I would like to see an actual arguement why he's better than Hughton, because in my mind the fact that Hughton has won more trophies in a season than Pardew has in his entire career says a lot. I'll have a go. Pardew never managed a squad like the one we had in the Championship. Hughton never got a team he was managing to a Cup Final. B IIRC the year after the cup final West Ham finished seventeenth (they were in the relegation zone when he got sacked) plus he had the worst run of results for the Hammers in seventy years. So he may be alright this season, but next season it can be expected to be a shaky one. How has he improved the team? Kuqi? I don't mean personnel-wise obviously! I mean in the way he's got us playing, I think we are better.

I was a fan of Hughton and defended him a lot on here but I think Pardew has improved the team, regardless of what you think of him as a man.

Get used to it. We used to be a club who bought players for large fees, give them massive career fulfilling contracts, and then could never get rid of them. We are now a club who aims for players on lower fees, on lower wages, but with potential to be a hell of a lot better. It is a natural consequence of the second option that we will worry about the players we sign who turn out to be great player, and then leave for bigger and better clubs. Do it consistently enough for a long period of time and you might get lucky and hit the sweet spot between the Arsenal model and the Man Utd model! ...and if you get it wrong a few times, you end up between the Sheffield Wednesday and WBA model...! go the other way and it's leeds and pompey........and us to certain extent. Leeds and Pompey do NOT have our crowd potential or drawing power. Still, we can always settle for second best instead of 3rd best, eh !? Leeds and NUFC's problems were the result of having a complete dickhead in charge instead of only a partial one.. you just don't want to get it do ya ? it doesn't matter what the size of crowds, turnover or prestige of club,'crowd potential or 'drawing power'......if you try to live too far beyond your means you'll end up f***ed. the only difference is the size of the numbers, the premise is the same for all. Just don't want to 'get it'..!? If I and others hadn't wanted to 'Get it' 20 years ago, the club would still have been run by McKeag's family and KK would never have arrived as manager ONCE. never mind twice... I don't need a lesson in economics thanks - you are implying that the club would be 'living beyond its means'by competing for decent signings or trying to keep its best players ; that is a matter of conjecture - do you believe that Kuqui is a decent signing for a club like Newcastle ? Or would Gateshead be a more likely setting for him !? We have sold a young player who, in all likelihood, will play for England for 10 years and win medals with Liverpool - yes, that's right, Liverpool and they WILL win medals despite the envious tripe spouted on here about them because they are ambitious and have rich backers....nobody is saying that NUFC should be signing 35m players but there IS and should be, a balance. Also, any club selling its top players will never prosper - end of... If you don't want to talk Sheff Weds, try Burnley and see how selling best players did for them. NUFC DOES have a big support and only clubs with decent support can be successful over a long period. NUFC has not punched its weight over the years and if you can't(or WON'T) see that, you either haven't supported the club for very long or you have a poor memory recall. Ashley may not be Abramovitch but he COULD back the club a bit better in the market - as could anyone who doesn't blink at losing 1m a shot in casinos..!! Failure to attract or keep good players means that any decent ones left at the club will also want to leave. How can you say the club hasn't been punching above it's weight when you look at the financial side of things before Ashley took over? We were paying Champions League level wages! Any club selling their best players will never proper...? What about Sevilla, as Village Idiot points out? It's all about the right balance, which is difficult to find, tbf. What tripe is spoken about Liverpool as well? Most of it is justified. Head over to one of their forums if you don't like the scousers getting insulted.

Folan, that was it, I knew it was an Irish sounding name. With the current lot, I've only saw the Grimsby game but Storey impressed me more than Streete. I assume he's a year or two older though?

In the youth cup semi final last year, when Henderson got injured, his CB partner (can't remember his name) looked much better than Henderson.

Why did you even bring it up?

I knew Tooj would come up with the goods.

Look at Tino's bracelet Imagine trying to get away with that these days.

You said yourself there is no tactical nirvana. Barcelona's tactics will always leave them vulnerable to counter acts but if they drop deeper they lose their intensity in the final third, which is a massive part of their game. In terms of a tactical nirvana, Barcelona must be one of the closest teams to it judging by their results.

Think its Riley.

Calling Madrid's squad "inferior" comes a close second to calling Barcelona's football "tactically s***". You are on fire tonight Dresden. erm, real madrid's team is clearly an inferior footballing team to barcelona. you cannot surely be disputing that? thing about the 'tactically s***' thing is that yeah, i did not express myself sufficiently in that post. so fair play. I despair, I really do. Seriously, Real Madrid's team is not clearly inferior to any team in the world as it is undisputedly one of the best teams in the world run by one of the best managers in the world. They were humiliated by Barcelona nevertheless, and this was as much to do with brilliant tactics as it was to do with individual class, which Real Madrid also have in abundance. Your apparent hatred for Barcelona is clearly blurring your clear vision on the subject.. inferior to barcelona ffs. please understand the context of my statement. they are also an inferior side to the one mourinho had the season prior in milan. love how me saying that real are inferior to barca somehow supports this 'hatred' for barcelona. You're hatred was confirmed when you said the team had a 'spine of c**ts' not the comparison to Real.

Most those games are a week apart. Most top teams will have schedules like that.

Calderwood looks like he's turned it around at Hibs, three wins on the trot now.

I thought it might have been a neck injury. From all the medals he's won you know...

I only saw five minutes of the game, as I said in the other thread, but he was playing LB tonight wasn't he?

Dresden, if you were in charge at Barcelona would have sacked Guardiola yet to bring in a more tactically astute manager?