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Didn't hear it myself but didn't he basically say "We've had bad news too, so today's been pretty shit." Not "We've had some bad news and it might have contributed to the shit performance?"

I really don't see why a manager down-playing his team's chances in a press conference means anything. That's the smart thing to do. You're supposed to publicly take the pressure off the players. It's one of the reasons why Mourinho is so good. What kind of fucking mentalist goes to a press conference and says "aye, we'll win nee bother." Even when Premier League teams are playing against League One sides in the cups, the manager will generally do the usual, "anything can happen on the night," bit. It's just good sense. Yet when Pardew does it he's "demoralizing the team." It's ludicrous, for fuck's sake. What are you on about man? I'm not saying he needs to say, "aye, we'll win nee bother." He just doesn't need to say stuff like, "get spurs game out the way" and "8th is top of the league for us" Those were from just this week. I don't know what he says in private to the players your right, but based on their recent performances, every single one of them have given up now and are on holiday. He doesn't have to say we'll win, that's stupid. He could show some sort of confidence or positivity though that might filter through to the fans and his players. Recent performances have been shit. He needs to stop the rot pretty quickly here. But approximately 0% of it has anything to do with anything he's ever said in a press conference. Pardew sees the players every day. Unless something said in a press conference relates to one of them personally then I'm certain it does fuck all to affect them. I think the only solution is to analyse his pre-match comments more closely than currently, and Ian W frowns on that. Bit of a catch-22. As previously stated, I frequently watch our games and am reminded of his pre-match comments, it seems to seep through to the players - whether that's because they take notice of the media or it generally resembles what he's saying in training/on match days, we'll never know. So yes, it has an effect if that's the case and my mind's not playing tricks. The only real example I can remember recently of that not being the case was when he said it was a terrible time to play Man Utd as they'd just been beaten by Everton. Fair do's we won that game and played well, so the theory didn't really ring true in that instance. As I say, I'll start keeping a record of it if you like - pre-match comments vs the subsequent performance. You'll have to ask Ian W though. Not worth the bother. Even if there is a correlation it doesn't mean hedging = loss. We're on a losing streak. When your side is struggling for confidence it makes even more sense than usual to downplay their chances and take the pressure off. It can just as easily mean losses = hedging. A correlation between the two doesn't doesn't mean anything he's saying publicly affects their morale. There's not necessarily any causation there.

I really don't see why a manager down-playing his team's chances in a press conference means anything. That's the smart thing to do. You're supposed to publicly take the pressure off the players. It's one of the reasons why Mourinho is so good. What kind of fucking mentalist goes to a press conference and says "aye, we'll win nee bother." Even when Premier League teams are playing against League One sides in the cups, the manager will generally do the usual, "anything can happen on the night," bit. It's just good sense. Yet when Pardew does it he's "demoralizing the team." It's ludicrous, for fuck's sake. What are you on about man? I'm not saying he needs to say, "aye, we'll win nee bother." He just doesn't need to say stuff like, "get spurs game out the way" and "8th is top of the league for us" Those were from just this week. I don't know what he says in private to the players your right, but based on their recent performances, every single one of them have given up now and are on holiday. He doesn't have to say we'll win, that's stupid. He could show some sort of confidence or positivity though that might filter through to the fans and his players. Recent performances have been shit. He needs to stop the rot pretty quickly here. But approximately 0% of it has anything to do with anything he's ever said in a press conference. Pardew sees the players every day. Unless something said in a press conference relates to one of them personally then I'm certain it does fuck all to affect them.

I really don't see why a manager down-playing his team's chances in a press conference means anything. That's the smart thing to do. You're supposed to publicly take the pressure off the players. It's one of the reasons why Mourinho is so good. What kind of fucking mentalist goes to a press conference and says "aye, we'll win nee bother." Even when Premier League teams are playing against League One sides in the cups, the manager will generally do the usual, "anything can happen on the night," bit. It's just good sense. Yet when Pardew does it he's "demoralizing the team." It's ludicrous, for fuck's sake. Must just be a coincidence then. Though to be fair we're losing almost every match at the moment. I'm not arguing for a second that he isn't struggling to motivate the team, by the way. I just think it's a little more subtle and complicated than him hedging in press conferences.

I really don't see why a manager down-playing his team's chances in a press conference means anything. That's the smart thing to do. You're supposed to publicly take the pressure off the players. It's one of the reasons why Mourinho is so good. What kind of fucking mentalist goes to a press conference and says "aye, we'll win nee bother." Even when Premier League teams are playing against League One sides in the cups, the manager will generally do the usual, "anything can happen on the night," bit. It's just good sense. Yet when Pardew does it he's "demoralizing the team." It's ludicrous, for fuck's sake.

Should have asked him about this - http://www.colinhendrylies.com/ Forget uncle Mick, the Hendrys are the biggest chavs in the country.

Just thought I'd leave this here. http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m298/europawpw/Screenshot_2014-02-12-07-06-04.png

No. It's equivalent to Hull signing Defoe, Gilberto, and Bradley then expecting them to get a solid top half finish and win a cup where they're guaranteed to play two of the top 4 teams, each fielding strong teams. It could happen, but no one is expecting it to.

New Dave. is shit.

I'm pretty confident the only reason Tav, Vuckic, Abeid, Newton are on loan is as a shop window. Ferguson is probably out to keep him busy. He has made some ok appearances but he's not about to push Gouf or anyone else out of the team. We don't just want him stagnating on the bench in case we do end up needing him when we let people go in the summer.

He's a very good young player imo, could learn a lot playing with Bradley. They should really find a way to hold on to him. The chance to play with players of that standard means they should have a decent chance of holding on to him.

Just for some perspective: Aaron Ramsey was a useful, playable, Arsenal squad member at age 18. Theo Walcott was a useful, playable, Arsenal squad member at age 18. Aaron Lennon was playing for Leeds age 16 and was a useful, playable, Spurs squad member -and nominated for young player of the year - age 19. Jack Wilshere has been a useful member of the Arsenal squad since age 18. He's currently still only 22. Jordan Henderson since age 20. Currently 23. Raheem Sterling is currently 19 years old. There are a ton of other examples but you get the gist. With our paper-thin squad we've got plenty of opportunities for the kids. James Perch took the chances he was given and stepped up. So did Andy Carroll. There's no sign of most of the kids listed in the original post being anywhere near good enough. Last chance saloon for most of them.

As far as I'm concerned the only relevant information is as follows: James Tavernier - 22 years old. He's either ready for next season or get rid. Haris Vuckic - 21 years old. See above. Mehdi Abeid - 21 years old. See above. Conor Newton - 22 years old. See above. Adam Campbell - 19 years old. Needs some game time at increasingly higher levels. Curtis Good - 20 years old. See Adam Campbell. Shane Ferguson - 22 years old. It's now or never, broseph.

I'm guessing it's to do with agility. It doesn't seem to matter that much in MLS. Jimmy Nielsen just led his team to an MLS Cup win while unable to jump or raise his arms above his head. I think he might be the basis for the sequel to Weekend at Bernie's.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/worldcup/2014/news/article/2014/02/11/world-cup-brazil-manager-luiz-felipe-scolari-says-goalkeeper-julio-cesar-wil?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=News&utm_campaign=Unpaid

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Me too.

Missed it due to time zones. Was it a comprehensive bum fucking?

OK, I'll bite. One of our most expensive players was Shearer and he worked out perfectly for us, it was never what we paid, it was who we bought. We're 8th in the league and I refuse to accept that is our level while Everton are in the top 6, something which he seems to think is beyond us, if they can do it then we should be able to. Our fans being more unhappy when we lose is the same as the fans of every other competitive team sport so why even mention it? As for mega rich clubs, look at Everton. You don't even have to look at Everton, look at who won both domestic cups last season. So you're quibbling over not being 2 places higher in the league. Want us to return to the transfer policies that brought us Owen, Martins, and relegation. Not concentrating enough on the cups. And denying the cringe-worthy, spiteful, echo chamber this place becomes when we lose a few on the bounce? Yeah, he's the one in the wrong here. What a load of bollocks, you're just invented something I haven't said and Everton are 5th which is 3 places higher and they're in a position to qualify for Europe which is hardly quibbling. Oh, so where we finished not even two years ago. Have you never heard of the saying which involves chickens, hatching and counting..? I suggest you wait until the end of THIS season before you start crowing about either where we are now or something that we fluked 2 years ago and don't stand a cat in hell's chance of repeating. We're a hell of a lot closer to 5th than we are to 17th. We don't have a cat in hell's chance of finishing up in either of those positions. Perhaps not. But I object to the fact the 5th place was the fluke while 17th is an accurate reflection of how the club is doing. Why isn't it the other way around? As I've pointed out, we're closer to 5th right now than we are to 17th. More to the point, if 5th isn't where we deserve to be, why is Michael Owen the cunt for echoing the same sentiment saying 8th is about right for us at the moment? I don't want to be the one defending Pardew and tossers like Owen, but some of the biases on here are ridiculous. Can't see the wood for the trees.

OK, I'll bite. One of our most expensive players was Shearer and he worked out perfectly for us, it was never what we paid, it was who we bought. We're 8th in the league and I refuse to accept that is our level while Everton are in the top 6, something which he seems to think is beyond us, if they can do it then we should be able to. Our fans being more unhappy when we lose is the same as the fans of every other competitive team sport so why even mention it? As for mega rich clubs, look at Everton. You don't even have to look at Everton, look at who won both domestic cups last season. So you're quibbling over not being 2 places higher in the league. Want us to return to the transfer policies that brought us Owen, Martins, and relegation. Not concentrating enough on the cups. And denying the cringe-worthy, spiteful, echo chamber this place becomes when we lose a few on the bounce? Yeah, he's the one in the wrong here. What a load of bollocks, you're just invented something I haven't said and Everton are 5th which is 3 places higher and they're in a position to qualify for Europe which is hardly quibbling. Oh, so where we finished not even two years ago. Have you never heard of the saying which involves chickens, hatching and counting..? I suggest you wait until the end of THIS season before you start crowing about either where we are now or something that we fluked 2 years ago and don't stand a cat in hell's chance of repeating. We're a hell of a lot closer to 5th than we are to 17th.

Factually accurate wumming.

is right.

OK, I'll bite. One of our most expensive players was Shearer and he worked out perfectly for us, it was never what we paid, it was who we bought. We're 8th in the league and I refuse to accept that is our level while Everton are in the top 6, something which he seems to think is beyond us, if they can do it then we should be able to. Our fans being more unhappy when we lose is the same as the fans of every other competitive team sport so why even mention it? As for mega rich clubs, look at Everton. You don't even have to look at Everton, look at who won both domestic cups last season. So you're quibbling over not being 2 places higher in the league. Want us to return to the transfer policies that brought us Owen, Martins, and relegation. Not concentrating enough on the cups. And denying the cringe-worthy, spiteful, echo chamber this place becomes when we lose a few on the bounce? Yeah, he's the one in the wrong here. What a load of bollocks, you're just invented something I haven't said and Everton are 5th which is 3 places higher and they're in a position to qualify for Europe which is hardly quibbling. Oh, so where we finished not even two years ago.

OK, I'll bite. One of our most expensive players was Shearer and he worked out perfectly for us, it was never what we paid, it was who we bought. We're 8th in the league and I refuse to accept that is our level while Everton are in the top 6, something which he seems to think is beyond us, if they can do it then we should be able to. Our fans being more unhappy when we lose is the same as the fans of every other competitive team sport so why even mention it? As for mega rich clubs, look at Everton. You don't even have to look at Everton, look at who won both domestic cups last season. So you're quibbling over not being 2 places higher in the league. Want us to return to the transfer policies that brought us Owen, Martins, and relegation. Not concentrating enough on the cups. And denying the cringe-worthy, spiteful, echo chamber this place becomes when we lose a few on the bounce? Yeah, he's the one in the wrong here.

You are taking the piss. We've got a good scouting system, big money signings hadn't worked out for us, we're 8th in the league which isn't that bad, our fans are more unhappy when we're losing, his own stint here didn't work out, we can't compete with the mega-rich clubs, and he had no problems with Kinnear but felt he was from a bygone era. Controversial.