And Elliot could just as easily say the conversation never happened. That's hearsay.
Guv knows exactly how the conversation went as he was involved in it, it's not hearsay unless I've completely got the meaning of the word confused.
EDIT: I suppose it's hearsay to me or you like, but not to anyone actually involved in the conversation, to them it's either the truth or it isn't.
Whatever that means
Pure and simple really