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That's actually hit deep that like, it's far too accurate

All weekend

This is what we're dealing with: https://arsenal-mania.com/forum/threads/premier-league-newcastle-1-0-arsenal-saturday-4th-november-ko-17-30-gmt-sky-sports.36446/post-6424391

If Muniz knows Maguire cannot touch the ball he's free to close down McTominay. He's clearly interfering with play. The problem is that things like this will happen all the time, there will be marginal offsides on many set pieces, which will lead to defenders doing things they wouldn't do if they're aware the attacker they're marking is essentially out of play. They're just not as obvious as this was. Not sure what the solution is though.

what even are these people

FWIW this is great isn't it? Usually a game passes and there's the boring wait until next Saturday. It's Monday now and I'm still consuming fume porn, and we have Dortmund tomorrow

We were actually remarkably calm after the challenge, the ref completely lost it. I watched the whole thing back last night, Gordon is calmly talking to the ref, gets booked and runs towards the dugout in disbelief, saying "he's booked me?!" A minute later Longstaff is booked for having the temerity to give his side of the story to the referee. Schar then walks over making a "howay man" gesture, and as he already has his yellow in hand after dealing with Longstaff, the ref petulantly raises it to Schar. You will be hard pressed to find 3 minutes or so of consecutively poor decisions from a referee and his team; they must have done it all as a ruse.

Given I haven't seen anyone mention it on there I can only assume you would be downvoted into oblivion, or your reply would be deleted I honestly don't think I've seen anything like this before, it must take Cold War era Soviet levels of dedication to ignore the elephant in the room this hard.

"It's a coordinated effort to defend the refs!!! PSA, make sure nobody mentions the most controversial decision in the game." @Interpolic has mentioned it too but they must have been given every 50/50. Our player gets pulled down, "on your feet", theirs gets pulled down, foul.

Someone with an account post that Reddit post on an Arsenal forum man We could carry this fume on 'til Dortmund.

Yeah good spot, he clearly hits his shinpad as @80 says, absolutely no question it's a red then Imagine trying to moan about that loss, man. Absolute whoppers.

Be canny funny if the PMGOL appologised to Arsenal for not sending off Havertz.

I'm repeating myself, but I would be happy if I knew independent VARs were making decisions independent of each other personally. Majority vote wins. Edge cases are hard to accept and are why it all feels random to me. I would probably feel the same as the Arsenal fans regarding the push, as on another day it's called a foul, the protocol of sticking with the referees decision can feel like a coin flip.

It's ironic because I actually think this was VAR used to the best of it's current implementation. Anything they shouldn't or couldn't have an input on was ignored, and the foul, which genuinely could have went either way, stuck with the referees decision. Even at it's best it wasted 5 minutes of everyones time and has caused endless ammounts of debate I'm not even against VAR anymore, I just wish they would hurry up and get it refined to a point where it doesn't feel random. It's pointless as a tool if it's just a case of 'who is going to feel fucked over this week'?

The potential foul by Joelinton is the only questionable part of the VAR call, and it's a massive stretch for anyone to claim that was a definite infringement. They do get given though, but we got away with one much worse than this against West Ham. The offside and over the line checks are just noise. There's absolutely zero proof either of those things happened. It would have been a colossal misuse of VAR for them to just guess

That corner decision was baffling, it barely even reached the line never mind went over it. Tino was in complete control, there was no reason for the officials to assume he'd fucked up and let the ball roll out. Anyway, Arsenal match Liverpool as the most ridiculous group we come across, season after season it seems now. Both clubs and the people around them go so far beyond reality to garner pity, whilst being absolute shithouses themselves, it's fucking embarrassing.

it's absolutely shamefull. They actually got the benefit of the doubt on so many 50/50s it was ridiculous, and the first major decision to go wrong was not sending that rat off, which renders everything afterwards void as it should have been 11 v 10.

Arteta man I assume "absolute disgrace" is at the fact his team should have been playing the majority of the game with 10 men, aye?

Yous are shite Froggy and VAR bucks yous

Harry Kane being Harry Kane in Germany

We haven't been given a single 50-50

Absolute wounder for the Trippier should never play LB crew (watch Liv play LB leaving Hans in the mud).

Wreckless and not dangerous? What is that nonsense? They're both reds like, no idea how either of those challenges are acceptable?

Saliba's one of them TOTS 99ovr robots that make the game look unfair.

Ia Bruno mentally unwell?