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The Sack Pardew stuff was massively successful outside the ground for Hull, the momentum was huge and it came out of nowhere. It was relevantly flat inside because of a mixture of the ground size, the printouts being too small, and division between some sections of the crowd ("support the team not the regime" nonsense). With Ashley nobody has any excuse for not joining in tbh.

Super Duper Margret Thatcher

So up until this point has Tyrone Mings just allowed his mother to pointlessly live in poverty?

"John Carver disrupts Newcastle reserve game by entering the dressing room at half-time" That's what he would have written had he not been an arsehole.

Lee Ryder is absolutely shameless, man. If I didn't know any better I'd think he was parodying contemporary journalism.

Fickle cunts.

No problem from me. I want it to succeed, obviously, despite what certain bullshit merchants on here would have you believe. All I said was if the same people behind Ashley Out are the people who organised SackPardew, then I had very little hope of success (the reasons why can be found elsewhere). Not a popular opinion by all accounts. That's not all you said at all though.

Aye I reckon after the derby defeat someone knocked up a quality website like that with superb content in 24 hours. Look at the dates on the articles on the website that go back months - to suggest that the Ashley Out campaign wasn't planned all along is just plain f***ing wrong. That doesn't surprise me though because you've been wrong about almost everything since you signed up on here a couple of days ago. Straight after Pardew was sacked, they put out a statement saying that it was just the beginning. Absolute arrogance in ignorance again from this dafty. The first I heard of AshleyOut.com was in the thread with that title. I assumed the whole point of that thread was to announce it going live. If it existed before then, if it has existed ever since Pardew left, then that only goes to show how ineffective it's been - I've heard nothing about it, not from the press or any other fans, and needless to say I've not notice any of its campaigns. f***ing hell, you are a complete retard. It's been in the making quite clearly. 1. SP said 'it was just the beginning' when Pardew left. 2. Nobody could produce a site with the superb level of content within 24 hours of the derby ending. 3. Articles on the website start 27th February. So when did the site actually launch then? 22 May 2007 One day before Mike Ashley bought John Hall out.

Bollocks. It's people like you who turn forums like this into one-dimensional echo chambers. We've got people claiming the media are biased and not representing the true fan at the very same time I just watched Look North vox-boxing a fan coming out of the SOL and giving Ashley both barrells, summing up in a few words what the issue is - "nothing will change until Ashley is gone" or words to that effect. You've clearly not read a single one of my posts, otherwise you wouldn't be claiming I write drivel - it won't take anyone long to figure out my posts are pretty much consistent with what that fan said. But I'll tell you what, "Wallsend Mag", I'd certainly prefer to have a drink with an open minded mackem than 10 Mags who think like you - where anyone who posts anything slightly off message is "clearly a Mackem troll". I'd tell you to fuck right off for that blatant insult, if I didn't think that's exactly the reaction you were probably hoping for. So you're trying to claim that the local media are not biased because you've just seen them vox-boxing a fan who slagged off Ashley? Any paper who says something that the club doesn't like is banned, so it hardly takes some mental conspiracy theory to suggest they all toe the line. The short while after the Chronicle were banned they absolutely blasted the club, now we're back to polls about how what the North East's favourite loaf of bread is or something.

Aye I reckon after the derby defeat someone knocked up a quality website like that with superb content in 24 hours. Look at the dates on the articles on the website that go back months - to suggest that the Ashley Out campaign wasn't planned all along is just plain f***ing wrong. That doesn't surprise me though because you've been wrong about almost everything since you signed up on here a couple of days ago. Straight after Pardew was sacked, they put out a statement saying that it was just the beginning. Absolute arrogance in ignorance again from this dafty. The first I heard of AshleyOut.com was in the thread with that title. I assumed the whole point of that thread was to announce it going live. If it existed before then, if it has existed ever since Pardew left, then that only goes to show how ineffective it's been - I've heard nothing about it, not from the press or any other fans, and needless to say I've not notice any of its campaigns. Eh. The AshleyOut.com thread is just a thread dedicated to talking about that campaign, it's not an announcement of anything, that campaign has nothing to do with this place as far as I'm aware. The site (and coincidentally the campaign) just launched yesterday, so it has obviously been ineffective up until that point The idea and effort behind the scenes has obviously stretched further back in time though. This honestly isn't too hard to follow.

Aye I reckon after the derby defeat someone knocked up a quality website like that with superb content in 24 hours. Look at the dates on the articles on the website that go back months - to suggest that the Ashley Out campaign wasn't planned all along is just plain fucking wrong. That doesn't surprise me though because you've been wrong about almost everything since you signed up on here a couple of days ago. fucking hell, missed that.

You might have found it acceptable to be talked down to by Ashley's puppet, Pardew but I didn't. Being told that we couldn't compete with the giant clubs like Norwich, Swansea and Southampton in the transfer market, being told " thank god we aren't in Europe", listening to him grovel to fatty every time he was allowed to buy 1 million superstars, the record number of 3 or more goal twattings we endured during his spell as manager not to mention the horrendous runs of form that were commonplace as time progressed, not to mention the number of lies and contradictions Pardew came out with, these things p!us plenty of other things made the obnoxious Pardew fair game for criticism. Bingo. Right on cue, another criticism based solely on something I never said. I never "found it acceptable to be talked down to by Ashley's puppet". I just wasn't daft enough to believe going after the puppet instead of the master made any sense at all. You cannot see how it made sense to go after the mouthpiece who was coming out with gems like these: ”I am hoping the owner is starting to get a little bit more respect. I don’t think we are ever going to win everybody over for Mike and Derek and maybe even myself, but at least you can logically look at it and say we are in a much better position than most Premier League clubs in terms of our financial position.” “Mike’s (Ashley) put something like £273m into the club and he’s not taken anything back. Since I’ve been here I have not really shouted his corner. Politically for me it’s a minefield. I want to keep the fans in a good place but I would say to them, before they get emotional about it, that Mike has invested something like 25 per cent of his personal wealth in this football club. Ask me for 25 per cent of my money and you’ve got no chance. I don’t care how good your idea is.” “You have to pay a lot of respect to Mike (Ashley), we’ve had a couple of phone calls during the window and we could have cashed in on a couple of our players but he didn’t and I thank him for that and our fans should thank him too.” Seriously? And you can't see how it was entirely predictable that Carver would end up doing the exact same things? Or is he acting differently according to you? Why are you doing that thing to me that you've just been accusing everyone else of doing to you? I've never said anything to even remotely suggest that's how I feel. Carver is absolutely horrible, he's an arselicker and an even worse manager than Pardew purely by default of not actually being a football manager. Not even our fan base are thick enough to allow him to remain in charge for too long beyond this season though so he's pretty irrelevant; If he does stay on I doubt there'll be any need for an organised protest against him, he'll be chased out eventually.

That's really not my recollection, I thought pretty much everyone was against him - but then again I wasn't on here at the time, and I spent my match days well away from the ground. I can say for sure I know of no-one in my group who was behind him, but none of us go to the game either. That's a pretty small (you might even say petty) victory really - it remains to be seen if antagonising Ashley in ways that don't actually benefit us in the long term is a wise strategy. The short term result, and the fact it would be bad for NUFC, was entirely predictable. If this was part of a wider grand strategy to continually get under his skin and make life uncomfortable I could maybe have understood it, but it clearly wasn't. Pardew went, and it seemed to me everyone was like, oh fuck, what now? Only months later, after a derby defeat, does it emerge that Ashley Out was the next stage of the SackPardew campaign all along. Shame that the timing doesn't support that at all. How does getting rid of the bloke who was absolutely horrible at his job not benefit us in the long term? Worst case scenario we get another shit manager in and we'll still be shit. But anyway, support was massively split on Pardew. Most would never admit to liking him but they were 'content' with having him in charge and would passionately defend him on a whim. Doing something like AshleyOut.com with Pardew still in charge would have been very difficult imo.

You might have found it acceptable to be talked down to by Ashley's puppet, Pardew but I didn't. Being told that we couldn't compete with the giant clubs like Norwich, Swansea and Southampton in the transfer market, being told " thank god we aren't in Europe", listening to him grovel to fatty every time he was allowed to buy 1 million superstars, the record number of 3 or more goal twattings we endured during his spell as manager not to mention the horrendous runs of form that were commonplace as time progressed, not to mention the number of lies and contradictions Pardew came out with, these things p!us plenty of other things made the obnoxious Pardew fair game for criticism. Bingo. Right on cue, another criticism based solely on something I never said. I never "found it acceptable to be talked down to by Ashley's puppet". I just wasn't daft enough to believe going after the puppet instead of the master made any sense at all. You cannot see how it made sense to go after the mouthpiece who was coming out with gems like these: ”I am hoping the owner is starting to get a little bit more respect. I don’t think we are ever going to win everybody over for Mike and Derek and maybe even myself, but at least you can logically look at it and say we are in a much better position than most Premier League clubs in terms of our financial position.” “Mike’s (Ashley) put something like £273m into the club and he’s not taken anything back. Since I’ve been here I have not really shouted his corner. Politically for me it’s a minefield. I want to keep the fans in a good place but I would say to them, before they get emotional about it, that Mike has invested something like 25 per cent of his personal wealth in this football club. Ask me for 25 per cent of my money and you’ve got no chance. I don’t care how good your idea is.” “You have to pay a lot of respect to Mike (Ashley), we’ve had a couple of phone calls during the window and we could have cashed in on a couple of our players but he didn’t and I thank him for that and our fans should thank him too.” Seriously?

How did it not make sense? The obnoxious c*** has gone hasn't he? You can follow his adventures at Palace if you really feel deprived. How did it not make sense? Well, to rehash previous posts - it gave us an even worse manager (something which was entirely predictable don't forget), it deflected attention away from Ashley, it made Pardew actually look good and/or victimised, it produced the ridiculous Carver-fans bust-up, and, whisper it quietly because it's aggravating some people to hear this: because of the specific way it went about its aims, it reinforced the stereotype that NUFC fans are fickle and will turn on a manager as soon as they're not pushing for European glory - obviously I shall now have to apply the obligatory disclaimer here that me saying that is in no way an accusation that the fans or the campaign were being fickle. I know they weren't, you know they weren't, but if you want to know why I think SackPardew didn't make sense, I can't answer that question without saying it. There's a far bigger picture than just "Pardew gone. Carver in. The end." The club was unable to move forward when a large section of our fan-base was unwaveringly behind the figurehead of the club despite him breaking records for incompetence and almost relegating us. He was invincible here, and the fanbase was massively fractured because of him. Mike Ashley didn't want Pardew to leave either, so forcing his man out the door makes perfect sense.

They may not be like, people may actually be openly discussion genuine plans to set a man's house on fire and kidnap his kids. I doubt it though.

It was relevant to the whole 'you can't criticise the people who are taking action' meme, which of course has its limits, as I was trying to highlight. I suppose placing it in the campaign thread wasn't the best idea, but that wasn't intentional, it's a by-product of jumping across multiple threads. This isn't a 'campaign thread', it's just a discussion thread for AshleyOut.com. The comments about firebombing Mike Ashley's house are likely just tongue in cheek, and not actual inducement for arson.

mako is mackem shortand for mackem fwiw mako off to wembo in a lambo

tried about 4 times to come up with something witty but cannot be arsed. Our central midfield was honestly the worst thing I've ever witnesed

We're still trying to ridicule people for worrying about the future of the football team I see I don't think I could bare losing for the fucking 5th time in a row like, but a win today does increase exponentially the odds of Carver being in charge next season.

FUCK RELIGION. FUCK RELIGION. FUCK RELIGION...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendship_Trophy And it was Man City last season "they said we won the singing at the LC final" Jesus

Literally fuck all must be happening in Rotterdam nowadays.

Same, had to. Shearer's flick on's were absolutely inch perfect, it's insane.

"Has there ever been a more dramatic night in the Champions League!"