loki679

You're very naive if you believe that a lot of the crap about Ba in the press hasn't come from his 'advisers'.

Barca, Celtic, Man U Man U, Shaktar Juve u2.5, Celtic - doubles Barca, Galatasaray double Barca o2.5, Celtic u2.5, Lille - treble

You think Barca will go for it tonight?

£10 each on Belenenses and Al Nasr for no other reason than it's late and i'm bored.

Alan Shitjew is still my favourite. Manages to poke fun at a perceived lack of quality and be anti-Semitic towards someone who is not of Jewish heritage all at the same time. Tbf if he's not Jewish he would be a pretty shit jew.

I was looking at Celtic, if it's a draw at half time i'd fancy them.

The Shakhtar - Juve odds

AC fucking Milan. Should have checked the lineups before placing, I thought the odds were a bit good. Pretty much got my stake back from PSG and Real though. Crewe let me down conceding a 92nd minute goal and Lincoln getting beat at home to Woking meaning after an entire day gambling I came out with a whopping 36p loss. After about 8 hours on betfair i'm pretty much exactly where I started What's the thoughts on tonights CL games? Shitty lineups all round again?

Arsenal losing

PSG still look very capable of chucking this away.

Arsenal 1-1 now

PSG 2-1, Porto keeper wants shooting, let one squirm in under him at the near post from a tight angle

Balls, Porto equalised, hope Ibra can come up with the good tonight.

Crewe 1 up in the JPT too

PSG 1-0

£2 trixie, AC, PSG, Real, returns £29

Nobody on here has ever been a professional athlete. Think of the top players, how many of them do you see like that? Henry? Shearer? Messi? Cronaldo? Van Persie? Even Rooney and Ronaldinho who are both a little bit naughty don't seem to get themselves into that state. If I had a career that was going to last 15 years max and relied on me being physically fit you wouldn't catch me doing that s***, especially not in the middle of a season. edit to add: If it was the first time it'd probably be funny but we've seen this over and over from him. He's just throwing his career away.

Look at the state of him. Really wasting his talent at the moment, hope he can sort himself out.

You sound disappointed you don't get hit in the face by the ball every other week

All work and no play makes Jack Flash a 4-2-3-1. I've said yesterday keeping it on the floor and not in the air is the biggest change. And that was accomplished how? By throwing it to a defender? It's interesting to see how Krul did that and we then subsequently passed it round more than usual and didn't immediately concede pressure. Probably just the formation though. No, you're absolutely right. It's a huge coincidence that we've played better football after changing formation. That and Krul rolling it out. Amazing, someone should tell all these managers that they're wasting their time on the training pitch, they just need to get their keeper to throw it out.

Keegan's a strange example. Not even sure what you're getting at with that one. Same with Jol. Keegan did well when given resources where others had failed (NUFC, Fulham). Jol came from a smaller, poorer team and did a good job when given resources. The point is you can trot out lists of managers who haven't succeeded when they've stepped up and you can trot out a list of managers who have succeeded. Just because Hodgson or A.N.Other failed to make the step up doesn't mean that everyone will.

All work and no play makes Jack Flash a 4-2-3-1. I've said yesterday keeping it on the floor and not in the air is the biggest change. And that was accomplished how?

Aye, that's a stupid argument to make. For every manager that failed when trading up you can find another that succeeded. Completely unrelated, imho. Exactly my point mate

That would be Champions League and FA cup winner Di Matteo? It's just silly, some managers make the step up because they're good enough, some don't.

Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger, Kevin Keegan, Martin Jol