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Better than last pre-season, already then.

or Donnay.

Well its only really since they returned to pre-season training that they've had to wear kit with 'Wonga' on it.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTTsvRZBfw_wbfDH2ruRyfKuyF43LoXzkCaYLhC9gQqffNVc0uMxQ "Papiss Cisse is not a gambler"

Relieved at this news, but don't know what's more embarrassing..... trying to give Harford a job here, or him knocking us back!

Well he has no standing in the game, other than a reputation for playing like a shaved chimp, his credentials are s***. He's is the square root of f*** all in this game. You talking about Kinnear or Harford!

Educate us, BM. I won't because I like you I genuinely am interested though. What's he done wrong besides be from Sunderland? I need to hate this guy like the rest of you Yeah, BM. We're foreign as f***. This is obviously the newest slap in the face and we want to know what's up. It wasn't actually a slight at you for being foreign at all, it was more the fact that you hadn't heard of him, which tells it's own tale. Firstly, it's Cronyism of the worst kind, secondly, he's never amounted to a hill of beans in his coaching career and now all of a sudden, he has a role at a top (debatable I know) Premiership club, which if you look at his recent history you simply couldn't foresee that coming and thirdly (and least important) he's a born and bred Mackem. or his playing career, really... apart from always seeming to taking great pleasure in scoring against us.

Just seen this... so the DoF now has an 'assistant'?? Dear Me.... what with his recent holiday, id JFK actually gonna do any work for this title??

Apologies if its been mentioned, but a 'Prominent Tyneside Muslim' from the Islamic Diversity Centre North East, has spoken out on the Cisse situation ... http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/prominent-tyneside-muslim-gives-view-5162570

Keegan Were we not first linked with him when Sir Bobby was manager?

Looking like he'll be No.9.... probably.

Aye, heard that on Total Sport last night - also saying they'd "reluctantly listen to offers for him".

Same blue pinstripes too. So swap out the red for black, and does that indicate a black panel on the back, rather than white?

Only heard a bit of it last night in the car, but the Sunderland commentator for Radio Newcastle was on Total Sport, and it sounded like he was uncertain and questioning the amount of changes happening at the SoS. Italian backroom staff and DoF, then all these new players coming in - was saying if it all went wrong, and they ended up sacking PDC, then with all the staff/players he's brought in, its basically 'tear it up and start all over again' for the next manager. He sounded slightly concerned.... almost unconvinced at whats going on. Lovely.

Not sure if it was a direct quote from Llambias or anyone, but there was the thought that the 'rules' were that any players signed had to have sell on value, too.

Meanwhile, on Wearside, today.... http://pictures.directnews.co.uk/liveimages/father+investigated+after+phoenix+fire+burns+two+children_3834_800481114_0_0_7042468_300.jpg

What's the point of all the blue trim then? As has been mentioned already in the thread, we have had blue trim on the home shirt before, and some thought it could be a nod towards the 'blue' tint that appears on a magpie, in certain light.

Fans 'Fury' at Adidas kit template sharing... http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4987410/Adidas-football-shirts-share-similar-designs.html

Away from his precious horses though. Ultimately, it was all about England too, wasn't it? He could have stayed, being a bit-part player at Real, but it would have been at the expense of his England place. That's the main reason he returned to the Premier League. Money & England are the only reasons he joined us, basically.

Catts for Bruce, like. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/lee-cattermole-quit-sunderland-join-4700441 Amazing... would still be the only manager to pay money for Clattermole, if he goes there.

JFK says no, he's happy with his Mazda.

'Yohans'?

Just listening to this now. At the start he says he's been in talks for 'about 3 weeks'. Later, he's asked when the DoF role was first discussed... 'Mike rang me about 10 days ago'. Blokes a proper Walter Mitty.

Brighton forums (gaffer is a Brighton fan) reckon this move is to oust Pardew and bring Poyet in. * Sorry if aged philandering welshman.