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But there's a difference between ricocheting onto an arm by his side or along the ground vs one that's pointing straight in the air in prime position to block a cross surely? Not that it even really did ricochet - it was struck there by Elanga. Not his fault the defender had his arm up to block his cross. Or is the rule now that you can block crosses and put your arm out as extra security as long as you make sure the ball hits your body first?

I don't get why people don't think that's a penalty. Maybe by the letter of the law which I cba scrutinizing but by the spirit of the game surely it is? He's slid in with one arm in the air positioned that could block a cross. Why does it matter if it took a slight deflection? Don't put your arm in the air like that and it won't hit it. Cf's new handball rule: could the defending player reasonably have not had his arm/hand there? Gabriel could have slid with his arm lower or if sliding to block a cross with your arm in the air is the only option then don't do it or risk the penalty. See also the Fulham game where apparently it's acceptable to dive across the goal like a goalkeeper so long as the arm is in the natural position for diving across the goal. I get not wanting to give silly handballs and having a generally high bar but both those today were stonewall for me.

On the one hand probably can't argue with the result. On the other hand we don't get given a stone wall penalty at 1-1.

Get the reserves back on.

Why can't we get the ball.

Guess it depends on the definition of "clear and obvious". If the ref thought Pope made no contact but on replay turns out he did then it was "clearly and obviously" a mistake by the ref.

One of those for me where the attacker made sure there was contact rather than it being a clear cut foul.

Pope also pulls right out of the way too.

Is this gonna be Black and White Corner FC Vs Red Corner FC?

Saka is going to be a problem isn't he.

That was ridiculous by Eze.

Firmly of the opinion that dive should be a red card. Also think that should be a penalty. As much as the arm is in a "natural position" there's nothing making the defender dive across the face of the goal - it's the risk you take.

Apart from the video or something?

Should unretire for one game only.

Never mind Amorim, MOTD just pointed out they haven't had back to back PL wins since May 2024.

Why are we barely in the MOTD intro?

Amorim stating that Man Utd "need to play their own game and not Brentford's". He does realise football is played against an opposition team right?

Time to spend 20 minutes amusing myself by reading red cafe.

Commentator just said Man Utd would have conceded more if not for Bayindir. As in if they played without a goalkeeper entirely? Or she thinks he's good and other keepers would have conceded more? How have Man Utd gone multiple seasons without at least a half decent keeper?

Good strike but seemed like comical goalkeeping.

3. Amorim is so clueless he might try to sub him back on anyway.

So if a cross is coming in and the attacker hasn't touched it yet but has a simple tap in awaiting you can just drag him down because he's "not in control of the ball"?

They could try and the club and Eddie would tell them to fuck off.

Absolute shit show. 5 mins from the foul to the penalty taken. Clear red card as well.

Why don't Man Utd have a defence?