HaydnNUFC

Would love to read an interview with Dalglish on his time here. Fascinated with it, and why it so badly so quickly in 1997-98 after doing well with Keegan's side in the second half of 1996-97. One for those who were actually alive at the time but surely he was the most logical appointment to make after Keegan left? Only manager apart from Ferguson to win the title, worked with Shearer and Batty at Blackburn when they won the league, his successes at Liverpool, the romantics about succeeding Keegan as a manager like he did at Liverpool as player etc.

This from the Sky Sports prediction bloke, wasn't aware of this. Been reading all about our pressing the last week. "One area they will be confident of finding joy from will be from set-pieces. No team has posted more shots (55, 14 more than any other team) and created a higher expected goals figure (5.01) from set-pieces this season than Newcastle. Meanwhile, Man Utd have conceded the third most shots from set-piece situations this season and looked all at sea in the closing stages at Goodison Park last weekend when Everton went direct."

Was Sancho picking up a bit of form midway through last season or am I imagining that? He's still only 22 but every time I've seen him he's never done owt.

Wilson or Isak should Ronaldo fuck off in January? Probably early days for making a judgement on Isak, admittedly.

Fully agree with all of this. I think Carragher is the best pundit now, clearly is obsessed with the game and always does his research ahead of things away from the big 6 when on MNF et al. I still like Neville but I don't think he's as good as he was when he started in that period 2011-13. Been a bit wide of the mark when it came to Benitez for us but always speaks really highly of us as a club and has been brilliant on the wider issues in the game but I think he's started doing a bit too much away from football. His book, the hotels, real estate, politics and more he's involved in.

Aye. Mental but the 21st December is my birthday, hope we play someone shite at home on that date.

Aye unsure about that, like. Man City have only lost 1 League Cup match, which was on penalties away at West Ham, between October 2016 and now. The last time a non 'big 6' team won it was 2012-13 when Swansea won it.

Could add my own personal TOO YOUNG category for this template which will have almost all of the fuckers in but I will try and muster some thoughts/feelings about them. HATE Bruce Pardew Souness Allardyce DISLIKE/DISGUST Gullit Carver McClaren APATHY Shearer Dalglish FONDNESS Roeder Hughton ADORE Keegan Robson Benitez Howe Keegan and Robson are easy to explain as to why they're in the category they are. Looking back I absolutely loved Benitez, hung off his every word, watched every press conference, loved the job he did here and was absolutely devastated when he left which was the primary reason I chucked my ST. Because of that it's hard to not put him in adore but in the hopefully incredibly unlikely scenario that we're looking for someone to succeed Howe I wouldn't want him back in any capacity. Didn't when we'd just drawn 1-1 at home to Watford and had 1 win after 20 games last season, wouldn't in future. Howe is perfect for us, I remember clamouring for him when Bruce was still stinking the place out pre takeover and was very happy with him post takeover. His philosophy, work ethic and how he conducts himself in front of the cameras is everything I want in a Newcastle United manager. I hated Bruce with every fibre of my body, most hated manager of ours for me. Complete antithesis of Howe in every regard, belittled the club and consistently patronised the fans. Hopefully he's absolutely finished in management so I don't have to hear or read his name again. I didn't despise Pardew as much as I do now or as many on here do at the time, but I do now and strongly resent the revisionism of him becuase of that 1 season. It went so much more deeper than the football on the park: he's the reason I think Ashley set in stone the modus operandi of the club as one who never strove for success, deliberately went out of the cups and avoided Europe because the extra games 'may increase the risk of relegation'. That's his legacy and it still hasn't worn off on this fanbase. I hate Souness because of how he talks about us now, still endlessly bitter at doing a shit job to the point where he belittles us. We're 'not a proper club' yet 'there's more pressure up there than anywhere else'. Fuck off man, you took a team that finished 5th to 14th whilst falling out with and getting rid of some of our best players. Granted you didn't want Owen and wanted Anelka, but look at the results; 5th to 14th, danger of being in a relegation battle when he was sacked, capitulation at Lisbon, the Cardiff semi final performance, ugh. Allardyce was a fat mess who played shite football but never pretended to be otherwise. Should never be at clubs like us and Everton, should be at basket cases like the mackems, Bolton and Palace. Hence the respective fan reaction to him. Gullit was terrible with how he handled the senior players and it turned ever so toxic behind the scenes at the start of 99-00 but he knew when it was time to leave. Carver was just embarrassing and incompetent but simply should never have been given the rest of 2014-15. The decision to give him the interim job almost sent us down which is astounding given where we were in the league when he was given it. McClaren was an uninspiring, wet flannel but again should never have been given the job in the first place. Another Charnley masterstroke. Shearer was just a desperate roll of the dice that didn't work. I posted a couple pages back but Dalglish is an odd one to me. Surely at the time it was the most logical appointment to make; only manager besides Ferguson to have won the PL, worked with Shearer and Batty at Blackburn, his success at Liverpool as a manager and the romantics about succeeding Keegan in some form again? When he had Keegan's side, we only lost 2 league games under him from when he took over in January '97 until the end of the season and had some great wins at home, thrashed a lot of teams including the memorable wins against Leicester and Forest. Probably as mentioned prior in this thread he just didn't have the money? Ginola asked to leave in March '97 like plus a lot of Keegan's team were aging but those replacements, fuck me. But I never see him as a fraud or owt. Roeder took us on a hell of a run and was a great tonic post Souness in 2005-06 but again should probably have not been given the job. Great person however who dispelled that 'Geordies hate cockneys' myth and is really missed. Will always admire Chris Hughton for what he did here, we looked absolutely fucked in pre season 2009 but he won us the Championship at a canter. Had great days under him and should never have been sacked when he was.

Ffs

7. At home.

It is to me, that's my point. All opinions.

Both of their grounds were built within the last 20 years, St. James' has been St. James' since 1880. And aye fair enough, I'd probably be the same but with ever so slightly gritted teeth.

That crest is all I've ever known so it is to me I love it, love its nod to the city coat of arms and we've had it when we were class under Keegan and Robson. Only change(s) I'd acquiesce to is changing the lion in the turret to something that looks a bit more like a lion and/or a 'dumbing' down of the colours for want of a better phrase to the colour scheme of the 125 Years version from 2017-18 or to a strictly black and white design. All the other designs we've had or had put forward are shite imo bar the original coat of arms of the city from the 1950s, 60s and 70s and that isn't coming back.

Ew.

As in it'd be enough for me things like the crest, ground, ground name etc are sacrosanct and are parts of the club's soul I personally don't want to tamper with.

The likes of Arsenal's and Man City's sponsorship revenue comes through shirt sponsors which dwarf that of the stadium naming rights. If we were to get a lucrative shirt sponsorship deal that'd be enough. People go on about renaming the stadium as if its inevitable when no club in the league with the exception of Bournemouth has ever renamed their original, existing ground. A partner a la Wembley and EE as above, yeah fine. Changing the ground's name? Fuck that.

We've done alright at Southampton since we got promoted in 2017, only 1 defeat and that was behind closed doors and under Bruce. In the PL era at selected grounds we've had 1 win at Old Trafford, Cabaye 2014. 2 wins at Man City, 1 was at Maine Road (Shearer 2000-01) and the other was the LC win in 2014 2 wins at Anfield, in the league in 1994 and in the LC in 1995 2 wins at Chelsea, in the LC in 2010 and the Cisse brace in 2012 4 wins at Arsenal, 1994, 1997, 2001 and 2010 which is the only one at the Emirates 10 wins at Spurs which is our joint best away opponent alongside West Ham, and we've also scored more goals v Spurs than any other team in the league Never beat Wimbledon and never beat Southampton at the Dell, but we've won at St Mary's 4 times, one of which is in the FA Cup

Well, nah, because commercial income is not exclusive to stadium naming rights. Man Utd have a ridiculous amount of commercial partners, just from the top of my head they've had Chrevolet, Chivas Regal and what is probably an outrageously lucrative kit supplier deal with adidas. The rest of the big 6 the same, different training wear sponsors, daft things like tyre partners I'd far rather we went down that route first before touching anything to do with the fabric of the club which ultimately to me personally (and probably a few others) is sacrosanct given the way top level football has been going since 1992.

I'm aware, but £20m-£25m a season for it is a no from me. A Joe Willock a season. Fine with new grounds being renamed, but Chelsea, Man Utd, Everton, Liverpool, Spurs (and yet still) have all managed to spend and compete without renaming their grounds which theyve been playing at more or less for their entire existence. Some have just spent the money they've made better than others.

I'm the same. I thought that with Staveley and her husband involved as well as the Ruebens who've been involved in trying to get the club bought and the city respectively that in spite of our riches we'd (try to) preserve the clubs identity; the crest, the ground, the grounds name etc. This is part of it and I definitely don't want to change it for the sake of ~£25m a year. [/yer_da]

Regarding the 3pm games on TV discussion, I'm selfishly for it as I've never watched non league in my life (though I may go to a Chester Town or South Shields game whilst the WC is up on to get my fix of going to games) but I don't see why 3pms can't be shown via PPV or another subscription to a streaming service. Pay a one off fee and get NBC's coverage on your TV or SuperSport's coverage of a specific game. I'd more than happily do that for all the aways I can't get to.