Dr Jinx

Great spot, the other one in commercial court is City obviously. Makes total sense to try and snooker them if it’s possible. This business with Hoffman might have a knock on effect too, less influential obstacles perhaps. I think we all were feeling a bit deflated last week but let’s put it in some perspective, the active arbitration and CAT cases go ahead on the assumption that the consortium are still at the table, or why else would they bother? We have to take it on faith that they are still there. We also said, well most of us when the idea of going to court was raised and was also mentioned how long it could take, we said we’d put up with 2 years of this shit if it meant Ashley being gone. A little less than 2 months and if we get a favourable ruling with jurisdiction, I honestly think the PL will then settle. That case might not be heard for another 6-12 months but you can guarantee that disclosure will be ordered soon after a ruling.

I don’t see that at all. He made a big call at international level when he was a kid basically. Stayed loyal to a Villa side that were basically us or worse for quite a while and improved as a player and built up his physique to cope with top level as he was a real skinny lad a few years ago. Is he worth a 100m? No idea, but being the most fouled player in the league consistently tells it’s own story.

Mitch is a legend that matters? What in the actual fuck is happening on the internet? Who are these people? Where did they come from? What do they want? How can we make them go away?

Nout wrong with that! That kit was lush apart from the awful sponsor logo

I honestly think he’s deliberately doing a worse job because he wants out with a pay off. He’ll look after a few of his buddies on the way out the door, maybe some players he had before, one last decent contract type thing while giving the ok to sell off anything decent we have.

If he was to leave that would probably deter Willock from coming back. I don’t really want to jump the gun as it could just be a case of him catching a cold and then being told to isolate. Losing him would be a hard one to take.

If any of the “big 6” clubs did indeed actively try and block a takeover and the PL listened and did their bidding, isn’t that by it’s own merit a slam dunk case of anti competition?

Be interesting to see how Woodman does, some have suggested he’s either as good as or a better prospect than Dubravka. But back to the CB signing.. I’d love to get in a room and tear strips off every single person at the club involved in bringing in or sending out the playing staff. Like we had Lejeune, seemed to do well last season, fit again. A known quantity.. but yeah, let’s flog him off for nothing and then scramble around looking for rejects from other clubs. Like what does be going on in their heads? Do they know anything about the sport they are involved in?

I wouldn’t have a problem with it in the sense that I know that would never happen. None of us are unrealistic enough to think that KSA wouldn’t have some sort of hopes for how this takeover would have panned out, The thing is, MBS, and his ministry. They are not the brightest. It wouldn’t be all that good if they were heavily involved. PIF are a different matter. They have very bright minds making decisions. I haven’t a doubt they would entrust the investment to people who would guarantee it being a success.

Let’s not forget? How could we? We’ve had a very small amount of actual info discovered/released, talked about, then recycled and talked about all over again pretty much for 2 years non stop, 3-4 if you take in the bollocks that was BZG. There’s only so many ways you can analyse this info. We’ve been repeating ourselves for a long time now. The podcast chumps are peak waffle right now, it’s exactly what we don’t need.

My apathy is kept to the owner and management. Knowing that the PL are the ones fucking us now as well as Mike Ashley sort of adds resolve to how am going to approach the season. I’m wanting us to win more than ever just to stick it to the corrupt bastards. I really want to see the whole institution of the League pyramid burnt to the ground.

Blackmail who though? If Tottenham had done that, there’s absolutely zero proof that this was a reason why the PL failed to make a decision or obstructed the completion of the takeover. It just makes Tottenham look bad, and they’ve already had the fan revolt over the ESL idea and survived it. It would help with the CAT case perhaps but hard to tell. You would think if this info existed, it would already have been a part of the evidence submitted. Like what are they waiting for? Keith smells like a septic tank he’s so full of shite.

Aye right, he’s just sitting on this evidence for a rainy day like. What an absolute fantasist!

Any links to this aside from the radio?

Regarding the question of Staveley and the Reubens going it alone, I think AS was quoted before, or a close associate mentioned to the press that there is a solidarity between the 3 consortium members. They won’t go it alone while each of them have an interest still. This is exactly what you’d want to see though, what would it say about the working relationship if one or two of them suddenly left for a quicker deal. And this part is a guess but I would also imagine seeing the level of resistance they’ve faced and also seeing the level of support from Newcastle supporters, it won’t have gone unnoticed on any of them, even PIF. They’ll stay at the table until there’s literally no course of action left to take.

Willock and a replacement for Shelvey. We need to bin that bald layabout as well.

Perhaps the PL have indicated they would accept a slightly repackaged submittal? The silence is interesting at least, you’d think if this really was delaying tactics by either side, it would have come out at by now.

He got absolutely hacked down by England’s Harry Kane in one of his first games with us and missed months. It’s fair to say he never had a great run in the side, but when he did play a few he looked the part. Not the fastest but his reading of the game made up for it.

But she’s not though. Nobody could have foreseen the level of opposition they’ve experienced. We know the story about how this came about, Staveley was invited to a yacht party by MBS’s people, or got an invite. She’d been requesting an audience for some time. Once interested, they decided that PIF was the best vessel to make the investment (because of the slight separation between State) Perhaps, if they were being clever, they could have opened an investment firm in America and done it through that. But they had no reason to think that PIF would be rejected as they are internationally respected as a wealth fund. Not that corruption in football is news to any of us, but honestly I had no idea how far Qatar’s hand was up the PL’s arse before this takeover began. Or the sway some of the wealthier clubs had..

All this big six bollocks, we were always above Spurs for the most part before Ashley deliberately crippled our ambition. Where were Spurs, or Man City for that matter when the PL was in the process of becoming what it is now? We were always above that lot, always had higher attendances and had far more interest for the casual football fan. You’d think this club was a new upstart from the conference the way people go on about it.

The Athletic article is missing a trick though. Ashley will go ahead with the CAT case regardless of whether the Saudi’s have walked or not, this is his insurance policy to get paid. So even if the case won’t be heard for a while, if the judge rules that the court does indeed have the jurisdiction to do this, the PL will suddenly be exposed. The disclosure of evidence will happen much sooner and that will be things the club can use in early 2022 in the arbitration while also being something that PL can’t allow to happen as it’s clear they have something to hide. To say it’s over is jumping the gun in my opinion. It’s about risk assessment, would allowing the Saudis into the club pose less risk than all of this potential info coming out?

When you see the Man Utd supporters breaking into their ground and the media take a stance of “well you have to see their point” Why would something like that not work for us? They couldn’t ignore it. A major disruption of every home game, it would hurt the PL where it matters, they’d have to refund tv broadcasters for delayed or cancelled games and then have the issue being talked about nationally. Sure, we’d take some flack but what have we got to lose at this point? We’ll know before start of season whether CAT is going to go ahead or not. If not, we can’t just bend over and take it.

I was never confident that arbitration was the way we were going to win this. My posts will back this up, the CAT case holds more weight because it’s a higher power that can make a judgement against the PL if we win. Arbitration is an in-house farce that was always stacked against us. I felt it was a bad thing that the arbitration case was going first because a ruling against us there might have influenced proceedings in the CAT case as their uploaded documents show that they have considered the similarities between both cases. If anything, I wouldn’t put it past the club’s legal team to have created this delay so that CAT could go first, but that’s total guesswork. Nobody will really know what happened there, including smarmy journos who claim otherwise. As I said before too, if we lose the jurisdiction ruling the whole thing is dead in the water but if the court rules against the PL, I think they will settle with the club rather than have all of this go into the public domain. (which the judge has indicated that it will apart from sensitive information which will be partially redacted) So as of now, it’s still very much in play.

Ben Jacobs is waffling, nothing other than the separation between PIF and KSA in terms of being a director or person with control is being discussed in the arbitration. If you read the published documents referring to the failed dismissal of the chair, it quite clearly states that this is all this arbitration is looking at.

Nout wrong with him I bet, just terrified of being sold down the league.