Dr Jinx

Edit. I re-read it again. I see this as a somewhat big win for the PL, I’ll explain why at the end. To summarise: The PL is challenging the jurisdiction of the court to hear this case as they say it’s basically the same as what’s being heard in arbitration. The judge has given them until the 11th to submit its case as to why it should be thrown out. They mention there will be detailed evidence to support this claim. - likely more delay tactics. They want to bury it in litigation before it even gets going. The judge denied them access to a confidential document - which seems to contain sensitive commercial information as to a loss of earnings and damages. - I don’t think it’s anything more than that. Ashley has had someone come up with a number and how they reached that conclusion. It’s not the smoking gun as we might have hoped for. The judge basically says they should be able to submit its jurisdiction rebuttal without having that information at hand. The judge also references that they are looking to delay arbitration too and is unsure if that will be granted. - no decision has been made as yet so it may not actually be starting in July. As it stands they need to disclose their evidence by the 9th June for arbitration. Right.. so evidence for the arbitration needs to be submitted by the 9th June, I would imagine the club wanted the full disclosure of evidence for this case in their hands before they had to submit that case too. But that’s not going to happen now if the arbitration goes ahead as planned. NDM is basically going to court without knowing everything he needs to. The anti-competition case may not even go ahead at all if the PL can submit a good reason why this court doesn’t have jurisdiction here. I honestly can’t see any angle why this will have been good for the club.

I’m guessing the disclosure part hasn’t happened yet as we’re waiting on their response. Tell me if I’m wrong but wouldn’t that be a two way street? Wouldn’t the club have to disclose the information on what their case is based on too? Would the club also need to request the exact information they believe is relevant to the case? I can’t imagine the PL will give them the logins to their server and just let them dig around. If the PL decide to settle before it gets started, then we were right all along and they acted improperly, if they contest this I reckon they probably have a strong case that there was no wrong doing and will stick to their guns until this fizzles out completely.

Didn’t he have some awful stat in his second loan spell, like basically didn’t touch the ball once in a whole half of football or some shite like that. The previous season I saw him at SJP for the win against Southampton and he was awesome. Really good day that. Then saw him in the pre season against St Pats Athletic and he looked fat and unfit. People can make excuses for him, as mentioned above about a second loan spell hurting his feelings, but bollocks to that, he’s supposed to be a professional footballer. The minimum he could have done was show up to pre season in some sort of shape.

His attitude is top notch.. fortunately Arsenal seem to have a preferred line up which doesn’t include him.. and in fairness, they destroyed us in the middle of the pitch when we played them, it’s not a weak spot for them. 20-30 million would go a long way to solving their deficiencies this summer too where I don’t expect many clubs to be spending big. Sign him, someone to replace Shelvey, a left back and a goal scorer up front and we could have a half decent side next season, that’s if we keep everyone else.

Aye, I’m not worried about what Mike Ashley might or might not do. Cross that bridge if we ever come to it. My take on it is there’s more to this deal for him than the 300 million. I’m sure there would have been other takers that could have scraped up the money if that’s all he was after. It seems it’s very genuine this time that he’s fighting our corner on this, even if he’s doing it for other reasons. I also think the way the supporters have shown they want KSA PIF at the club has formed a bond in terms of them waiting for this deal to happen. It certainly hasn’t gone unnoticed with them.

I suppose the reason this takeover won’t or isn’t happening is that the PL don’t want one of its member clubs being owned by a Country which gets such bad international press. They figure it will damage the brand. Everything else being brought up (piracy etc) is just an excuse to do something they had already decided.

The only positive I can really pick out is that PIF/KSA haven’t bought anyone else yet. The longer it drags out though, the more likely a more attractive proposition will come along.

Madness this game!

I don’t think people are going to have the appetite to vent at him if they were all let back into the stadium for the last home game. People are going to be so happy to be doing normal things again there’s going to be a good atmosphere despite all the bullshit that’s gone on all season.

Comparing this to Man City is getting ahead of ourselves, we don’t know what kind of business model the consortium might potentially follow. If Rafa Benitez is involved, his pipe dream of building up a whole youth system and top academy is far more exciting than just going and buying success imho.. We know he can do more with less than the other “top” managers. A couple of solid signings to go with the decent ones we already have at the club and year on year steady progress would do all of us I think? Right now the club is really only set up for buying success for the first team, the infrastructure is not there to do the rest.

I wonder does Arsene Wenger have another run in him at a premier league club. All those Arsenal supporters holding a protest to get him sacked, wonder if they still think they were right all along.

Whilst I’m not disagreeing with the comments, cmon.. stop being such miserable cunts ? it’s a good win that none of thought we were getting. Just be happy with it. The season is almost over and hopefully we can look forward to our decent players like Almiron being utilised a bit better next season. The midfield is a known quantity. It needs replacing. (Longstaffs, Shelvey, Hayden & Hendrick) We do that and we might even have a good season despite Bruce if he’s still here. At the end of the day, the takeover is all that matters really.

I think we’ll have a new owner of this club within 12 months. I’m confident of that. The recent news, it doesn’t really change much. We’re still up against an institution that’s hell bent on protecting this big 6 that are commercially viable. NUFC could have and should have been that, but let’s face it, after Robson threatened to spoil the party with our 3rd place finish, we’ve done fuck all to merit being considered a big club (commercially) My thoughts are that this news means they want to accelerate the process as I would assume the interest KSA/PIF have in this project is time limited. They will get pissed off and walk away for good at some point.

I would say the consortium are fronting the legal costs. Maybe the deposit that’s in escrow is being used. It’s not like they haven’t been in direct contact.

I get the impatience, ideally we want to have everything in place so that Bruce can be moved on and a few players bought to give us that immediate boost before the new season starts. But I’m in the camp that we’ve waited this long, I can wait longer if I know there’s goi no to be something at the end of it. It genuinely seems that way now. The PL have too much coming at them right now in terms of litigation. Where is the money coming from to fight all these cases? Is there a point where it will eat into the money divided between its member clubs?

A few of their players have gone off the boil at the wrong time too. Vardy and Maddison in particular. Earlier in the season they were unplayable. Still, it’s a massive achievement for a team like Leicester to be comfortably in the top 6 for 2 seasons in a row. Having a stable club with owners who show ambition and know how to make the place a happy working environment for all their staff cannot be underestimated.

I’d take him in a heartbeat. The difference between those good coaches though and say someone like Sir Alex, Wenger and even Guardiola is how they managed the squad and keep the right players fresh for the right moments. Leicester basically played the same 11 for the guts of the season. They have good players who can come on but the main bulk looked absolutely knackered. Even with us at a lower level, Benitez knew how to do this too. We had such few injuries in comparison to Bruce.

Leicester look tired.

What information would the PL have to freely disclose and then what would the club need a court order to see?

Yeah there’s definitely another reason here. Although the obvious reason could also be the global situation. He does his best business in times like these and 300+ million would swallow up a whole bunch of struggling brands. Perhaps cash he doesn’t have readily available to him?

Re: Keith, I’m big enough to admit I was at least partially wrong about him. He does like the attention but he obviously had something, I wouldn’t call it a bomb but it also isn’t nothing either. And to those saying Mike is just looking for compo? I’d say that’s a last resort, you can’t really bring about a case like this without looking for damages, the key bit is the injunction.

The PL wanted to reject it, the reason they didn’t was because of the political consequences. I believe that’s what they meant by unchartered territory. The crux of the arbitration is whether they applied the rules correctly in their assessment. They are essentially ignoring a court ruling which states that PIF are an independent entity to trust their gut feeling that MBS is a person of significant influence. (they are not wrong.. of course he is) but whether they can provide a legal case for this that supersedes the original court ruling is the key here. It’s a strong move from the club, I believe it’s massive pressure on the PL now that this info will be out in the open. It supports and adds weight to the arbitration case, in fact, the PL may not let this get to court and just let the club get what they want through an “arbitration decision” But on the flip side it wound suggest that the arbitration itself is still early doors so we may well be quite a while off getting any sort of resolution on this

Jesus what’s goin on in here? You lot on the collective rag or something? ?

Are there any other charges it can be reduced back to? Murder most likely can’t be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Even manslaughter would have to be open and shut ala Derek Chauvin. At the end of the day, there’s only so much training you can have to deal with mental illness situations. It’s tragic and it probably shouldn’t have happened but at the end of the day people have to be responsible for themselves too so the police don’t have to make decisions like that. If he was that dangerous and out of control, he should have been locked up in a mental health facility where doctors could monitor him on a daily basis.

I’d love to see one of those body language experts pick apart that Kennedy chap just now. His eyes popping up, down, left, right and centre as he’s talking about what he can’t put out ? I don’t know much about the lad but being in with Wraith and his crusty cheerleaders make me choose scepticism as my go to here.