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Definitely think this is more likely to happen first than the big six properly turning on each other. This and maybe another league starting to muscle in. La liga really should be doing better than it does commercially.

I mean if you want to look at that result in a total vacuum then go right ahead, I just think it's fucking daft.

It will be good to at least get some proof of life from the 'Howe out' people. Been getting worried.

You ok, Hun? Seriously though. Obviously it's a shocking display, but it's come on the back on an insane run. 0 need for this level of dummy spitting.

I actually think they may come up. If they do they will need to strengthen massively or they're going straight back down.

Aye, this. He isn't anywhere close to Wilson in terms of injuries. And I don't really understand people turning their nose up at DCL on a free. He isn't coming in to replace Isak. More as an option/plan B from the bench.

That very first Jan window aside, has Eddie ever said we are looking to make a few signings in any window?

Do concur there could/should be a decent amount to spend in the Summer. Especially if we get CL. But even then I think they'll be wanting to bring in a RW, CB, and potentially GK all at the level to go straight in if needed. Even being canny and filling some of those roles with cheaper European options is still likely going to be close to 100m.

I don't think our PSR situation allows for the luxury of signing both an established and up and comming RW in the Summer. At least not for the fee involved for Dibling (likely 40m+). Think if we get CL we will go for someone like Mbeumo (finished article), think if it's Europa or below it will be someone like Dibling, who can grow into the role.

Not being a dick, but interested to see who you think is it if it's not him? There's no one playing that inside forward off the right role better in the PL at the moment. I don't think we will get him, at least not in Jan, but he certainly must be near the top of the list.

Don't want to be chief chip pisser, but really don't think we are making any moves in Jan. Only way I can see that changing is if Isak gets injured.

Especially enjoyed the "you've seen United, now fuck off home" chant once it went to 2-1. You've been outplayed by the worst team in the league for 80mins...

Feel like if we get CL it will be Mbuemo. If it's Europa or Conference it will instead be a young'un like Dibling/some young kid from abroad.

I hear it's exactly that easy as well...

For him to be drawn to the Chelsea cash in the Summer, only to end up at a team below us, Chelsea, and Fulham by Jan would be pretty funny.

Gordon played under Ancelotti and Rafa at Everton...

Even if Isak was crocked, it would be Gordon in for him up top anyway, likely Willock or Joelinton on left. But Isak is fine.

Problem is is this wouldn't really solve anything for anyone. That's not a big enough increase to satiate the current demand. And only extending the Gallowgate wouldn't let them do what they'd need to in terms of corperate. I would share your concerns about some random bowl 5-10 miles outside the city. But I honestly that's not going to happen. Anywhere inside the city, especially Leazes Park and I'd say there's no real risk to any sort of 'identity' loss.

I really don't know where the 'Lloyd Kelly is on 150k p/w' thing came from. Always seemed pretty obvious that that was ridiculous.

By all accounts pretty great in terms of the money the generate on match days, and can therefore spend in transfer windows. If you want to talk about the choices they make in terms of signing players and managers that's a different, unrelated, conversation.

Gordon's last half season at Everton before moving in Jan: Games: 16 Goals: 3 Assists: 0 Elanga this season so far: Games: 21 Goals: 3 Assists: 5 And those numbers actually undersell Elanga, who is way more integral to how Forest play compared to Gordon at Everton. Don't think it's being crazy to suggest that with 18+ months of Howe Elanga could be producing in a similar way to Gordon. In terms of goal involvements this season he isn't far off already.

I know this is has been said to death now... but people said the same (and worse) about Gordon. Honestly think Elanga is better/more effective now than Gordon was when we signed him from Everton.

Yep. Plus with any player, especially in attacking areas, you have to take into account the 'Howe' (and staff tbf) effect. Take how good he is now, accept that it will likely take at least half a season for them to a regular, but that when they get to that stage there will likely be a marked in improvement on the player they were when they came in.

Past few years it's been "if you stay still you're actually moving backwards" in the PL. We're rapidly approaching the point where it's "if you're improving you better be doing it at at least the pace of others or you're getting left behind." As long as FFP/PSR are the reality then anyone who's taking the big strides to improve their matchday/events income will, in time, move past us if we don't. For better in worse, within 5-10 years the PL will likely be comprised on 20 teams with these money making machines of stadiums like Spurs etc. The quicker we get to that point, the quicker we can unlock the potential that comes with the sheer wealth of our principle owners. I do concur it's not an easy dilema to solve, the history and fanbase of this club imparticular can sometimes make this sort of heartstring stuff harder than it would be for another club. You think a Bournemouth fan is going to twist at the idea of leaving the Vitality for a 40k stadium which, thanks to it being more modern/having more corporate, will likely generate more than a 52k SJP does on a matchday?

Maybe he is here for depth, but it's a bit daft to say he looks 'Championship at best' when he has been playing pretty well at PL level for the past couple seasons. Are there any teams (City aside) who look just as strong when a squad player comes in to cover for an injury?