Gallowgate Toon Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 McClaren isn't very good but the idea that this team should be comfortably mid-table is a very misguided one. Not enough goals and a poor defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 From the Chronicle: McClaren looked a beaten man as he prowled the touchline during the closing stages, and you have to wonder if his days are numbered. There’s an 18-day gap now before United play again - the perfect time to make a change, perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 McClaren isn't very good but the idea that this team should be comfortably mid-table is a very misguided one. Not enough goals and a poor defence. We'll agree to disagree there. A better manager wouldn't have us near the bottom three. I'm pretty sure of that. It's irrelevant like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 It's how we lose too - we just throw the towel in and get slaughtered. Not good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 There's no excuse for the sloppy play last night, we were wide open time and time again. McClaren is an abomination of a manager, especially away from home. He should've gone months ago, I'm now at the point where I can't see him being sacked. It's unbelievable, it really is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 They only need to ask a manager to take over to the end of the season. If things go well then great, if we get relegated they can walk away. We may even get a new manager bounce for once. It's worked for plenty of other clubs. Even if they decide to keep McClaren and we some how managed to stay up I'd sack him in the Summer. He's failed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 McClaren isn't very good but the idea that this team should be comfortably mid-table is a very misguided one. Not enough goals and a poor defence. We'll agree to disagree there. A better manager wouldn't have us near the bottom three. I'm pretty sure of that. It's irrelevant like. Same here, I just don't get it, we've had shit managers for 5 years yet some people can't or won't look past the players. Perhaps there's no goals and a leaky defence in part because the coaching and tactics are shit as well? The idea that people think Mitrovic, Perez, Wijnaldum, Sissoko, Shelvey, Townsend & Aarons aren't good enough to be firing us out of the bottom three is beyond my ability to comprehend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 He's got to make some changes to the side, especially away from home. It's really annoying that he doesn't freshen things up from time to time, Southampton are absolutely flying but made 3 unforced changes to their side yesterday and low and behold they won again. He should have brought Prerez in, he probably should have started Colback at LB who is more suited to the position than Aarons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Pay someone a big lumper to stay up like Sunderland did with Advocaat, and a permanent deal if we stay up and I think most managers outside the very elite would be tempted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AY Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 We are too naiive away from home. Trying to pass it too much playing high line. Again, very self-destructive with Willian, Pedro and Costa running behind. Just stick 2 banks of 4 and keep it tight, frustrate the opposition. Now when we lose the ball we are so open its ridicilous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 McClaren isn't very good but the idea that this team should be comfortably mid-table is a very misguided one. Not enough goals and a poor defence. We'll agree to disagree there. A better manager wouldn't have us near the bottom three. I'm pretty sure of that. It's irrelevant like. Same here, I just don't get it, we've had s*** managers for 5 years yet some people can't or won't look past the players. Perhaps there's no goals and a leaky defence in part because the coaching and tactics are s*** as well? The idea that people think Mitrovic, Perez, Wijnaldum, Sissoko, Shelvey, Townsend & Aarons aren't good enough to be firing us out of the bottom three is beyond my ability to comprehend. Aye, we've not had any strikers in the last 5 years that have scored plenty of goals under crap management. Even this season Mitro should have close to 10 already but has missed plenty. You can only blame coaching on so much. We've got some nice technical players, yes, but there's an overall lack of clutch between them. We could be in the early stages of making a good side but there's still a long, long way to go. Any mid-table side worth their salt should, at the very least, have a solid defence. We just don't. I blame all parties for the mess we're in, they're just as culpable as one another. Nobody should escape blame. Edit: we shouldn't be bottom 3, btw. Lower, lower mid-table is where we should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 McClaren isn't very good but the idea that this team should be comfortably mid-table is a very misguided one. Not enough goals and a poor defence. Totally Agree here we have a bottom six squad , not really sure why people think a defence as bad as ours should be any higher... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hog Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I think maybe I've got up in a weird mood this morning - I know it'd get mocked nationally but if I had the cash I'd get a full page taken out in one of the national papers begging Fat Mike and Kevin Keegan to sit down together, put their differences aside and do anything in their powers to get back together for the sake of the club and it's fans, one last roll of the dice... I know, it's ridiculous but that's the mood I'm in right now with things as they are. Ashley did it once, if he admitted to and appologised for how it went south last time around, admitted he'd not make the same mistakes twice and Kev swallowed his pride... we could have something special again. ... go on, you can all take the piss now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I think maybe I've got up in a weird mood this morning - I know it'd get mocked nationally but if I had the cash I'd get a full page taken out in one of the national papers begging Fat Mike and Kevin Keegan to sit down together, put their differences aside and do anything in their powers to get back together for the sake of the club and it's fans, one last roll of the dice... I know, it's ridiculous but that's the mood I'm in right now with things as they are. Ashley did it once, if he admitted to and appologised for how it went south last time around, admitted he'd not make the same mistakes twice and Kev swallowed his pride... we could have something special again. ... go on, you can all take the piss now. Wouldn't take the piss but Keegan took him for £2m, no way he's talking to him ever again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 McClaren isn't very good but the idea that this team should be comfortably mid-table is a very misguided one. Not enough goals and a poor defence. We'll agree to disagree there. A better manager wouldn't have us near the bottom three. I'm pretty sure of that. It's irrelevant like. Same here, I just don't get it, we've had s*** managers for 5 years yet some people can't or won't look past the players. Perhaps there's no goals and a leaky defence in part because the coaching and tactics are s*** as well? The idea that people think Mitrovic, Perez, Wijnaldum, Sissoko, Shelvey, Townsend & Aarons aren't good enough to be firing us out of the bottom three is beyond my ability to comprehend. Aye, we've not had any strikers in the last 5 years that have scored plenty of goals under crap management. Even this season Mitro should have close to 10 already but has missed plenty. You can only blame coaching on so much. We've got some nice technical players, yes, but there's an overall lack of clutch between them. We could be in the early stages of making a good side but there's still a long, long way to go. Any mid-table side worth their salt should, at the very least, have a solid defence. We just don't. I blame all parties for the mess we're in, they're just as culpable as one another. Nobody should escape blame. Edit: we shouldn't be bottom 3, btw. Lower, lower mid-table is where we should be. I think the last bit you put in with the edit sums up where most of us are tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steve-mcclaren-watch-newcastle-no-10888966 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 McClarens shitness is around -3 to 4 league places imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 sempuki please at least post the title of the links you post instead of just the hyperlink so we know whether its worth a read or not, especially those on our phone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 McClaren isn't very good but the idea that this team should be comfortably mid-table is a very misguided one. Not enough goals and a poor defence. Agree with this. The back line was woeful yesterday. Last time we went down it was with Colo and Saylor at centre back add a non-defensive rb in Janmaat and a left winger in Aarons and it's a recipe for disaster. We got away with it against a poor West Brom side but against such a strong attacking 5 it was an impossible task. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 A better manager would have these lot way more orgainsed and less shit away from home. A few away results would have us mid table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 A better manager would have these lot way more orgainsed and less shit away from home. A few away results would have us mid table. Absolutely, it's mental. You mitigate poor individuals with setting up an organised and aggressive team that looks to frustrate and hit on the break. We have the players to do that but are totally incapable of doing it, must be the players though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 It's staggering to think that this fella was once England boss (even if he failed there too) He's fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 The players look utterly clueless tactically and completely demotivated. Of course they're at fault too but ultimately it seems pretty obvious that McClaren has had and is still having zero positive effect on them. I just can't see Ashkey getting rid, he's a gambler so will probably stick with him. So depressing listening to this halfwit do post match and even pre match interviews. That grinning yesterday in the interview really fucking wound me up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 You can't survive in the Pl without a defence. We have no Tier One players at the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 So when are they off to La Manga? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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