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It's this kind of attitude why we accepted McClaren. "Well who else we going to get, noone will come" well aye because we actively don't want them, that's why we're fucking shit.

 

That's not true at all, there's a world of difference between accepting McClaren and believing someone like Benitez would want to come here. Literally.

 

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There's a massive difference between us and Sunderland like. They could take the piss all the like, I'm not going to cater my opinions to them lot.

 

At the end of the day there's a lot we can offer Benitez as a club if we wanted to.

 

That's why there's no difference.

That's what I mean though, maybe wires are getting crossed. I fully believe it's as simple as the club flicking a switch and deciding we want to stop being shit though, it's a pretty unique situation as a football club.

 

EDIT: FWIW I'm not saying Benitez will come here :lol:

 

Definitely. There's nothing to suggest that that flick will be switched, because they don't think there's a switch to switch and if there is, they've already switched it. From my point of view it's not really acceptance with McClaren, we all knew he'd be shit, it's probably more that I just don't really care anymore, let them get on with it and then we'll pick up the pieces when it's finally over.

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No news from any journalists out there today?

 

The silence is down to the club doing absolutely fuck all to remedy it. Journo's are just speculating at the moment, but we know exactly how they operate.

 

Ashley has spunked 80 million for nothing, will loose out on the TV Money and when we go down, if the fans totally abandon going, he's going to see it as a ongoing concern.  Get shot of a large chunk of revenue and he'll be looking to sell asap.

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What's the upshot of Benitez joining now?  If he keeps us up he won't get a ton of credit. If we are relegated his reputation takes a massive blow. Failing at 2 jobs in 12 months. 

We are in a desperate situation and only somewhat desperate managers will take us on. I genuinely think Moyes and Rodgers would be ambitious appointments in this particular situation.  Th next job for both of them is massive. You would think an appointment in the summer with a midtable club or a pre-January appointment at one of those clubs if they are underachieving.  But in the relegation zone with 10 games to go.  I think we can get one of them but we have to realise we are in absolutely dire straights.

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It's this kind of attitude why we accepted McClaren. "Well who else we going to get, noone will come" well aye because we actively don't want them, that's why we're fucking shit.

 

That's not true at all, there's a world of difference between accepting McClaren and believing someone like Benitez would want to come here. Literally.

 

:thup: that was bullshit from me like.

 

What I mean in general is everything we're capable of is dictated by Ashley, and the perimeters for who we can or cannot get are set by that. Essentially anything we get is all we're capable of because we'll only get whoever Ashley/Charnley want, no better. That applies to Remi Garde as much as it does Benitez.

 

I do believe that Benitez would consider us though if we decided we wanted to take this Premiership thing seriously and came at him with a good offer. Like KI says he won't change so it's a null point in any case. Carry on :lol:

 

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If we are relegated his reputation takes a massive blow.

Does it though?

 

Yeah.  He's already coming off an embarrassingly shirt reign at Madrid.  The next manager at Napoli is doing better than he ever did. 

 

In the summer you would think Man U, Chelsea and Valencia would be looking for new managers.  While he may not get any of those jobs - whoever they do get will most likely open an opportunity at a current opportunity.

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If we are relegated his reputation takes a massive blow.

Does it though?

 

Yeah.  He's already coming off an embarrassingly shirt reign at Madrid.  The next manager at Napoli is doing better than he ever did. 

 

In the summer you would think Man U, Chelsea and Valencia would be looking for new managers.  While he may not get any of those jobs - whoever they do get will most likely open an opportunity at a current opportunity.

Did he wear Hawaiian tops on the touch line or something?

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If we are relegated his reputation takes a massive blow.

Does it though?

 

Yeah.  He's already coming off an embarrassingly shirt reign at Madrid.  The next manager at Napoli is doing better than he ever did. 

I'd think the circumstances of the appointment would cushion any damage to the reputation, i.e. he was asked to come in and perform the impossible and couldn't, should anyone get a lot of stick for that?
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The situation is almost hopeless. I don't see how anyone's reputation could be tarnished by giving it a go especially if they at least come close to saving us. Don't forget these people tend to have an unshakable belief in their own ability. Just look at our last two managers for proof of that. We should at least try. Even Mourinho would take 5 million for 3 months work. I mean why wouldn't you?

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The situation is almost hopeless. I don't see how anyone's reputation could be tarnished by giving it a go especially if they at least come close to saving us. Don't forget these people tend to have an unshakable belief in their own ability. Just look at our last two managers for proof of that. We should at least try. Even Mourinho would take 5 million for 3 months work. I mean why wouldn't you?

 

I think some of the same qualities would make it seem like an insult, as we're not a BIG CLUBTM.

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Ok, the glass is half full.

This silence from the club must be a positive thing. If they had no intention on sacking McClownface they would have made some sort of statement by now.

 

Surely they are on the phone with Benitez brokering a good deal there before they announce the sacking of Schteevie...

 

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Ok, the glass is half full.

This silence from the club must be a positive thing. If they had no intention on sacking McClownface they would have made some sort of statement by now.

 

Surely they are on the phone with Benitez brokering a good deal there before they announce the sacking of Schteevie...

 

 

Nah the silence from the clubb is bad, when things are going against them they stay very hush hush and seem to just hope for the best. Going off recent history.

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Ok, the glass is half full.

This silence from the club must be a positive thing. If they had no intention on sacking McClownface they would have made some sort of statement by now.

 

Surely they are on the phone with Benitez brokering a good deal there before they announce the sacking of Schteevie...

 

 

Nah the silence from the clubb is bad, when things are going against them they stay very hush hush and seem to just hope for the best. Going off recent history.

 

Going by the fan forum meeting minutes we're not in a relegation fight so there's nowt to worry about.

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Nah. If you look at what Pardew and Carver were going through, the club were quick and decisive in making a statement backing their man. They didnt do it after the Chelsea mauling, the tame surrender at Stoke and the shambles of yesterday including that supposed statement from the 'players'. Keeping my glass half full for now.

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