Steve McClaren

[mrmojorisin75]

 

 

The recent investment came to try and improve the squad enough for us to stay up. If they thought it was worth investing in the manager they'd have done so at some point in the last six years.

 

But following this logic they've "learned" enough of a lesson from their transfer policy to abandon it, spend £80m in 6 months and signing English players along they way to keep us up. Quite a departure from the previous 4 - 5 years.

 

There's no reason why they now wouldn't fear relegation enough to employ a better manager because it's the only part of their "blueprint" they haven't yet changed to try and avoid relegation.

 

I agree it's unlikely but lose to Stoke and Bournemouth and I think it becomes more of a likelihood personally.

[Dave]

Lose to Stoke and Bournemouth and we'll be in the bottom three with only nine games left. What manager worth their salt would take that job, even if we were to miraculously realise their importance? The names bandied about in here wouldn't. They don't need to. Even McClaren himself turned it down in similar circumstances ffs.

[mrmojorisin75]

Lose to Stoke and Bournemouth and we'll be in the bottom three with only nine games left. What manager worth their salt would take that job, even if we were to miraculously realise their importance? The names bandied about in here wouldn't. They don't need to. Even McClaren himself turned it down in similar circumstances ffs.

I don't know like, perhaps offering Moyes £2m (or 3 or 4) as a bonus to keep us up with the promise of the job might be enough. The job is still a big one in football, especially if they intend to spend again in the summer as they'll need to, then we could feasibly have a decent side next year with a good manager.

 

 

[Hughesy]

Throw enough money at anyone (as shown by players moving to China) and those type of managers would come.

[merlin]

Lose to Stoke and Bournemouth and we'll be in the bottom three with only nine games left. What manager worth their salt would take that job, even if we were to miraculously realise their importance? The names bandied about in here wouldn't. They don't need to. Even McClaren himself turned it down in similar circumstances ffs.

This, absolutely - if McClaren is going to be sacked, now is the only possible time if a newcomer is to have ANY hope of keeping the club in the PL....my view is that Ashley will bottle it and McClaren will take the club down.

[samag]

Lose to Stoke and Bournemouth and we'll be in the bottom three with only nine games left. What manager worth their salt would take that job, even if we were to miraculously realise their importance? The names bandied about in here wouldn't. They don't need to. Even McClaren himself turned it down in similar circumstances ffs.

This, absolutely - if McClaren is going to be sacked, now is the only possible time if a newcomer is to have ANY hope of keeping the club in the PL....my view is that Ashley will bottle it and McClaren will take the club down.

Not sure they could get anyone better than McClaren, . The Summer was a great chance to get someone decent all they seemed to have on their list was McClaren, who turned them down a few weeks earlier. So I am not sure they would have a clue who to go for. Sad times I think

[Yorkie]

Lose to Stoke and Bournemouth and we'll be in the bottom three with only nine games left. What manager worth their salt would take that job, even if we were to miraculously realise their importance? The names bandied about in here wouldn't. They don't need to. Even McClaren himself turned it down in similar circumstances ffs.

 

Yup. He isn't getting sacked tomorrow so we've very much made our bed.

[nufcjb]

Had a f***ing wicked dream McClaren was stopped at the departure gate on the way to catch the team's  flight to the training camp because Ashley sacked him on the way to the airport so his flight tickets were cancelled.

[lovejoy]

If they make the change now they'll attract someone worth attracting. Every game that goes by it gets harder and harder.

 

We shouldn't be anywhere near the bottom three with this team, manager culpable. Got to go.

[Gallowgate Toon]

McClaren isn't very good but the idea that this team should be comfortably mid-table is a very misguided one. Not enough goals and a poor defence.

[sempuki]

From the Chronicle:

 

McClaren looked a beaten man as he prowled the touchline during the closing stages, and you have to wonder if his days are numbered.

 

There’s an 18-day gap now before United play again - the perfect time to make a change, perhaps?

[lovejoy]

McClaren isn't very good but the idea that this team should be comfortably mid-table is a very misguided one. Not enough goals and a poor defence.

 

We'll agree to disagree there. A better manager wouldn't have us near the bottom three. I'm pretty sure of that.

 

It's irrelevant like.

[sempuki]

It's how we lose too - we just throw the towel in and get slaughtered. Not good enough.

[Tsunami]

There's no excuse for the sloppy play last night, we were wide open time and time again. McClaren is an abomination of a manager, especially away from home. He should've gone months ago, I'm now at the point where I can't see him being sacked. It's unbelievable, it really is.

[LoveItIfWeBeatU]

They only need to ask a manager to take over to the end of the season. If things go well then great, if we get relegated they can walk away. We may even get a new manager bounce for once. It's worked for plenty of other clubs. Even if they decide to keep McClaren and we some how managed to stay up I'd sack him in the Summer. He's failed.

[mrmojorisin75]

McClaren isn't very good but the idea that this team should be comfortably mid-table is a very misguided one. Not enough goals and a poor defence.

 

We'll agree to disagree there. A better manager wouldn't have us near the bottom three. I'm pretty sure of that.

 

It's irrelevant like.

Same here, I just don't get it, we've had shit managers for 5 years yet some people can't or won't look past the players. Perhaps there's no goals and a leaky defence in part because the coaching and tactics are shit as well?

 

The idea that people think Mitrovic, Perez, Wijnaldum, Sissoko, Shelvey, Townsend & Aarons aren't good enough to be firing us out of the bottom three is beyond my ability to comprehend.

[Andy84]

He's got to make some changes to the side, especially away from home. It's really annoying that he doesn't freshen things up from time to time, Southampton are absolutely flying but made 3 unforced changes to their side yesterday and low and behold they won again. 

 

He should have brought Prerez in, he probably should have started Colback at LB who is more suited to the position than Aarons.

[Guest]

Pay someone a big lumper to stay up like Sunderland did with Advocaat, and a permanent deal if we stay up and I think most managers outside the very elite would be tempted.

[AY]

We are too naiive away from home. Trying to pass it too much playing high line. Again, very self-destructive with Willian, Pedro and Costa running behind. Just stick 2 banks of 4 and keep it tight, frustrate the opposition. Now when we lose the ball we are so open its ridicilous.

[Gallowgate Toon]

McClaren isn't very good but the idea that this team should be comfortably mid-table is a very misguided one. Not enough goals and a poor defence.

 

We'll agree to disagree there. A better manager wouldn't have us near the bottom three. I'm pretty sure of that.

 

It's irrelevant like.

Same here, I just don't get it, we've had s*** managers for 5 years yet some people can't or won't look past the players. Perhaps there's no goals and a leaky defence in part because the coaching and tactics are s*** as well?

 

The idea that people think Mitrovic, Perez, Wijnaldum, Sissoko, Shelvey, Townsend & Aarons aren't good enough to be firing us out of the bottom three is beyond my ability to comprehend.

 

 

Aye, we've not had any strikers in the last 5 years that have scored plenty of goals under crap management. Even this season Mitro should have close to 10 already but has missed plenty. You can only blame coaching on so much.

 

We've got some nice technical players, yes, but there's an overall lack of clutch between them. We could be in the early stages of making a good side but there's still a long, long way to go. Any mid-table side worth their salt should, at the very least, have a solid defence. We just don't.

 

I blame all parties for the mess we're in, they're just as culpable as one another. Nobody should escape blame.

 

Edit: we shouldn't be bottom 3, btw. Lower, lower mid-table is where we should be.

[samag]

McClaren isn't very good but the idea that this team should be comfortably mid-table is a very misguided one. Not enough goals and a poor defence.

 

Totally Agree here  we have a bottom six squad , not really sure why people think a defence as bad as ours should be any higher...

[Guest Hog]

I think maybe I've got up in a weird mood this morning - I know it'd get mocked nationally but if I had the cash I'd get a full page taken out in one of the national papers begging Fat Mike and Kevin Keegan to sit down together, put their differences aside and do anything in their powers to get back together for the sake of the club and it's fans, one last roll of the dice... I know, it's ridiculous but that's the mood I'm in right now with things as they are. Ashley did it once, if he admitted to and appologised for how it went south last time around, admitted he'd not make the same mistakes twice and Kev swallowed his pride... we could have something special again.

 

... go on, you can all take the piss now.

[mrmojorisin75]

I think maybe I've got up in a weird mood this morning - I know it'd get mocked nationally but if I had the cash I'd get a full page taken out in one of the national papers begging Fat Mike and Kevin Keegan to sit down together, put their differences aside and do anything in their powers to get back together for the sake of the club and it's fans, one last roll of the dice... I know, it's ridiculous but that's the mood I'm in right now with things as they are. Ashley did it once, if he admitted to and appologised for how it went south last time around, admitted he'd not make the same mistakes twice and Kev swallowed his pride... we could have something special again.

 

... go on, you can all take the piss now.

Wouldn't take the piss but Keegan took him for £2m, no way he's talking to him ever again.

[mrmojorisin75]

McClaren isn't very good but the idea that this team should be comfortably mid-table is a very misguided one. Not enough goals and a poor defence.

 

We'll agree to disagree there. A better manager wouldn't have us near the bottom three. I'm pretty sure of that.

 

It's irrelevant like.

Same here, I just don't get it, we've had s*** managers for 5 years yet some people can't or won't look past the players. Perhaps there's no goals and a leaky defence in part because the coaching and tactics are s*** as well?

 

The idea that people think Mitrovic, Perez, Wijnaldum, Sissoko, Shelvey, Townsend & Aarons aren't good enough to be firing us out of the bottom three is beyond my ability to comprehend.

 

 

Aye, we've not had any strikers in the last 5 years that have scored plenty of goals under crap management. Even this season Mitro should have close to 10 already but has missed plenty. You can only blame coaching on so much.

 

We've got some nice technical players, yes, but there's an overall lack of clutch between them. We could be in the early stages of making a good side but there's still a long, long way to go. Any mid-table side worth their salt should, at the very least, have a solid defence. We just don't.

 

I blame all parties for the mess we're in, they're just as culpable as one another. Nobody should escape blame.

 

Edit: we shouldn't be bottom 3, btw. Lower, lower mid-table is where we should be.

I think the last bit you put in with the edit sums up where most of us are tbh

[sempuki]

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steve-mcclaren-watch-newcastle-no-10888966